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does anyone know of any advantages that XOOPS has over joomla
I know one :)
Try to maintain Community portal in Joomla 1.0.8 and u can see the differences. A lot of alpha and RC state hacks, and the main thing which first was saw in Nuke are the comments :)
Joomla comments are 3rd party addon - is this the next-gen cms ?
XOOPS isnt no more my favorite CMS (looking forward of XOOPS Cube), but anyway comparing Joomla to XOOPS is not the proper way, compare Joomla against each other, even e107.org and php-fusion.co.uk.
Joomla doesnt have anything of the XOOPS features, except the better theme engine, better community, better documentation.
So if u plan to move Joomla or Mambo (my favorite of this 2 forks) better check how u will get replacements for all your needs and used on your site before the dowgrade.
BTW, there is no 2.2.3 to 2.0 downgrader. in downloads u can found 2.2.x (which is created for the buggiest Myth XOOPS 2.2.2) released few months ago, not for 2.2.3 to 2.0.13.
SimpleForum which is now Mambo/Joomla forum cant be compared with first alpha of CBB 0.01 :)
U will be forced to use SMF, but SMF works fine with XOOPS too.
The main thing to pick up XOOPS before Mambo (cos Joomla! was not exist last year) is one, Mambo simplicity is very well explained in XOOPS, not in Mambo.
Check with how much clicks u can open 2 news categories one for regged users, and one for annonymous, and put two news in there in XOOPS and Mambo/Jambo.
Than make this news to be commented by users, and to rate the stories, to put Poll inside the stories.
and the same situation in XOOPS 2.2/2.0/JP - no matter which core u will pick, in XOOPS this can be done with ease, in Mambo, Sections, Categories, Permissions (yeah, I remeber the good old time with PostNuke 0.716, permissions everywhere to show how much secure is compared to PHPNuke - blah).
Do u ever seen local site to be hacked, this is a war between one man and XOOPS.ORG staff (not the community), so 2.2 is stable as 2.0.13, if 2.0.13 (
http://www.xoops.org) is hackable at least one per week, what the hell have to be 2.2? Do u ask here in the forum, for the pros and cons moving from 2.2 to 2.0 or vise versa ?
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Yeah and the most promising componets (yacks, there are modules, and the mambo modules are blocks) are commercial. Hot Property for example.
So, GPL core - wich cant do anything without this crap - components, and most of them commercial ? Can u imagine this here at XOOPS (.org or .jp) ???
phpBB CBB 4.0 to become commercial "component" ?? haha
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ie look in 'wysiwig editors' section and you'll find neatly arranged (and working!)
There is a 4 currently fully operational WYSIWYG Editors for XOOPS, but cant see why to use FCK or TinyMCE instead of the perfect Koivi ?
As u can read in that section of Jambo extensions, there is a only 3 editors, 2 forks of FCK, and over 7 forks of TinyMCE (and one that u not know yet, JosCE)
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So I guess what I need to hear is any actual reasons why XOOPS is better - for example are the modules unstable in joomla?
And this is not enough to u ?
Ok then, go and try Joomla!, but dont cry if u met the most important bug nova days! Joomla and Mambo are the most stupid CMS created ever, for example if u have installed on your M/J site Simple Board 1.0.0, u cant upgrade it to 1.4RC 1, cos there is no update/upgrade option in Mambo/Joomla!
Do u believe that if Joomla main developers release patch from version to version, and the component maintainers do it - no way, just the new version, and dig it on your own, if there is database change, not only in the code (and there is no such thing like "upgrade database" such as SimpleBoard - u will go crying - where is my hackable, unstable and fast (compared to Joomla! with more than 200 reg. users in the same time) XOOPS :)
So wish u success with OOPS to Mambo/Jambo conversion, but cant seem a point why this fork Joomla is better than XOOPS, except the first 3 points mentioned up, and where is the difference between Mambo and Joomla! :)
I will told u later, if u become Joomla! fan, it will be like a gift to u :)
Some ex-mambo developers, which was defacted by Joomla! and found this "gift" by themself now are back to Mambo :)
So be very careful with this fork, friendly advice :)
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Is XOOPS more secure? Though, again from your post if the homesite is getting trashed by hackers then that doesn't really bode too well!
Now take this example, if Joomla! was maintained by Herko, and Mikhail is the man who cant stay and minute without to #OOPS# up with xoops(.org) hacking, flooding, cracking etc. How much times per week Joomla will go down ?
As I told u before, it's not with the core, this hacks are against one or more ppl from XOOPS staff, and no matter what CMS will be used here.
If someone hates u, no matter that u are BSD Guru (if u are) your server will die each time when security hole is found by a powerfull hacker, which main objective is to buried your server once and forever.
Check securityFocus, how much time there is located XOOPS security hole, comparing to phpbb, phpnuke (my lovely scrap) and Mambo/Jambo ?
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I think in terms of the look of website, joomla is two or three years ahead of xoops
Hehe, this make me laught, 2-3 years ahead ??? of what ?
Do u ever seen Mambo/Jambo Administration ?
Do u believe that the hardest CMS is TYPO 3 ?
Check Joomla! u love it :)
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Joomla's apparently got a 1.1
Which is Mambo 4.6, instead of waiting, go and get it from
http://www.mamboserver.comJoomla! is a simple and unsuccsful try to steal the mambo popularity, if Mambo isnt exist, Joomla even cant be dreamed.
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Xoops has the similar 2.3/2.4
Prefer to play with 2.3/2.4 instead of Jambo 1.1, there is still no modules managment in 1.1 :)
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Use Drupal. You will see soon that you were only loosing time with those CMS's like Joomla, Xoops, ...
Yeah, the number one choice for ..... (no comment) pick it up
So wish u a lot of luck (u will need it) and success with Jambo! :)