Posted on: 2007/6/13 20:40
Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
I back the comments on the difficulties the moderators of the site have had in acting as moderators in recent times.
I vouch for the fact that editing and closing of thread discussions do take place and they are team decisions.
I vouch for the fact that in some cases these decisions have been reversed by someone in a site administration role and this leaves moderators wondering why they bother.
I vouch for the fact that there have been times where moderators themselves have struggled to post calmly in response to contentious posts, but they have apologised for this when they recognise they could have behaved better.
I vouch for the fact that 'all caps' though not stated in original xoopsiquette is considered 'shouting' and has therefore if nothing else been frowned upon and discouraged.
I vouch for the fact that this same team of moderators has spent the last few weeks re-considering xoopsiquette and as a result have come up with the xoopsiquette guidelines for xoopsinfo as a result, and this applies to all members at xoopsinfo - which means those moderating as much as those who do not.
I vouch for the fact that this same group are investigating their own Code of Conduct as moderators and in the process have included research in to 'code of conduct' practices at other websites from which to draw ideas and clarification. I feel positive this will improve on what has been before now.
I vouch for the fact that there was in fact a moderator team report, not as implied by the opening post of this thread that none was made. It was made on the moderator forums, which are not public forums, not on the open to the public space DJ provided. This forum is a work forum where moderators do discuss and record the discipline of posts and as the new lead developer DJ has access to this. I do not like the implication that no report was made at all. It was - and DJ had the opportunity to observe all of the work that has been before now if he had taken the time, and the opportunity, to ask questions and seek clarification. So...true there was no 'public' moderator team report - but there was a report on the status of the team.
I vouch for the fact that moderators do not know all the answers. We help where we can, and rely on the whole community to assist in the answering of questions and appeals for help on the forums.
I vouch for the fact that we have worked without a team leader for some time quite successfully, and in rlaity the only time 'leadership' has been needed and absent is when the flame wars started. That leadership needed to come from admin and we all know that Skalpa was indisposed. The mod team has always been accountable to xoops.org admin. The problem was admin (whoever that may be)was silent. When the leader is unavailable, the one who has ultimate accountabitlity is not around the mod team had to do their best on their own.
I vouch for the fact if it wasn't for their team work you would be lucky if you had even one moderator left here at xoops.org
I do not appreciate the use of a single instance of what someone considers poor moderating to be discussed as 'evidence' of why a certain person is not a good moderator or to use this to pull them from a team that has done it's best within the skills it has to manage in the recent very difficult and trying time. It is a job made extremely difficult recently by the prevalence of flaming, the collapse of the leadership of xoops, and the cries of the community to pull XOOPS together. It is members of this team that have helped to do this and to do so they have had to be more than moderators. They have been forced to take on multiple tasks. Moderators are humans. Humans have emotions that do get in the way, but they can also seek reconciliation.
Now with new leadership moderators need to be given the opportunity to focus on a primary task in a team they choose to be involved in. They will not have to multi-task with all the volunteering going on. Now is not the time to be nitpicking. Now is the time to be saying ok...let's see how this goes. Time is needed to see how this grows.
@BS - I will respond to your wiki comment elsewhere and in another way since I do not think it is relevant to this thread.