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hervet
Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 9:48

  • hervet

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 2267

  • Since: 2003/11/4


Hi,

Some f#####g compagnies are trying to abuse of the situation to make money with some names.
Try this :
http://www.xoops.fr
or
http://www.phpmysql.fr

Is there something to do to protect the "Xoops" name ?
Or at least something to stop this.

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fooups
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 10:08

  • fooups

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 82

  • Since: 2004/1/12


Hervé, this kind of behavior makes me very angry.

I found this link (french only).

EDIT: for those who don't understand french: somenone registered the xoops.fr address and not being a member of the official XOOPS french-speaking team (correct me if I'm wrong, Hervé)

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hervet
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 11:07

  • hervet

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 2267

  • Since: 2003/11/4


They have bought this domain name then later you can, for money, rent an email adress by week and if you are interesting, you can bought them the domain name, but for a great amount of money of course.

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m0nty
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 11:20

  • m0nty

  • XOOPS is my life!

  • Posts: 3337

  • Since: 2003/10/24


i think the lawas are pretty much the same in just about most countries regarding this.

you can't copyright a name..

but you can Trademark it.. how u go about it in another country other than england i don't know but trademarking in england will cover the rest of the world too..

for more info visit:http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/index.htm

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tl
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 12:55

  • tl

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 999

  • Since: 2002/6/23


Hervé:

There is not much you can do about it. There are always scumbags looking to profit from popular domain names.

FYI, here is the organization/person who registered xoops.fr.

Quote:

domain: xoops.fr
address: W3-Multimedia
address: rue de doignies
address: 62147 Hermies
address: FR
phone: +33 6 73 10 01 02
e-mail: domaine@osmoweb.com
admin-c: GT185-FRNIC
tech-c: OVH5-FRNIC
zone-c: NFC1-FRNIC
nserver: ns1.osmoweb.com
nserver: ns2.osmoweb.com
mnt-by: FR-NIC-MNT
mnt-lower: FR-NIC-MNT
changed: nic@nic.fr 20040521
source: FRNIC

role: OVH NET
address: SARL OVH
address: 140, quai du Sartel
address: 59100 Roubaix
address: FR
phone: +33 1 20 20 09 57
fax-no: +33 1 20 20 09 58
e-mail: tech@ovh.net
trouble: Information:http://www.ovh.fr
trouble: Questions: mailto:tech@ovh.net
trouble: Spam: mailto:abuse@ovh.net
admin-c: OK217-FRNIC
tech-c: OK217-FRNIC
nic-hdl: OVH5-FRNIC
notify: tech@ovh.net
changed: tech@ovh.net 19991222
changed: migration-dbm@nic.fr 20001015
source: FRNIC

person: Guillaume Tilleul
address: Tilleul
address: rue de doignies
address: 62147 Hermies
address: FR
phone: +33 6 73 10 01 02
e-mail: domaine@osmoweb.com
liste-r: N
nic-hdl: GT185-FRNIC
changed: nic@nic.fr 20040514
source: FRNIC

role: NIC France Contact
address: AFNIC
address: immeuble international
address: 2, rue Stephenson
address: Montigny-Le-Bretonneux
address: 78181 Saint Quentin en Yvelines Cedex
address: FR
phone: +33 1 39 30 83 00
fax-no: +33 1 39 30 83 01
e-mail: tech@nic.fr
trouble: Information:http://www.nic.fr/
trouble: Questions: mailto:nic@nic.fr
trouble: Spam: mailto:abuse@nic.fr
trouble: Test: mailto:ping@nic.fr
tech-c: PL12-FRNIC
tech-c: JP-FRNIC
tech-c: EM634-FRNIC
tech-c: MS1887-FRNIC
tech-c: VL-FRNIC
tech-c: PR1249-FRNIC
tech-c: PV827-FRNIC
tech-c: GO661-FRNIC
tech-c: FT1632-FRNIC
tech-c: MS-FRNIC
tech-c: AI1-FRNIC
tech-c: SDA2-FRNIC
tech-c: JJB-FRNIC
nic-hdl: NFC1-FRNIC
mnt-by: FR-NIC-MNT
changed: tech@nic.fr 20011025
changed: tech@nic.fr 20020711
source: FRNIC


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hervet
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 15:11

  • hervet

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 2267

  • Since: 2003/11/4


The things are becoming hot for this person, I have contacted some other website and they want to bring them to justice

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sunsnapper
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?

There is a domain dispute resolution policy from ICANN... I believe it is international, though perhaps it is USA only.


ICANN Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy

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tl
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 17:30

  • tl

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 999

  • Since: 2002/6/23


Quote:

sunsnapper wrote:
There is a domain dispute resolution policy from ICANN... I believe it is international, though perhaps it is USA only.


ICANN Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy


The only thing is that we don't have a case against those people, as XOOPS is not trademarked. In addition, I don't think XOOPS has the resources to pursue any actions.

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m0nty
Re: Is Xoops a registred mark ?
  • 2004/6/19 19:13

  • m0nty

  • XOOPS is my life!

  • Posts: 3337

  • Since: 2003/10/24


as Sunsnapper says, ICANN deal with these types of complaint in conjunction with WIPO..

this basically is setup to protect companies etc.. the basics of it are, if someone registers a domain name of a well known organisation solely for the gain and profit of selling that domain to the company the name belongs to, then it is deemed inappropriate and the domain can be forced to be released by the registering name server company etc.

xoops i believe has good grounds for this whether the name is trademarked or not simply because it is a worldwide company ( i say company as an example)

i say protected already, because a simple search on the name XOOPS does not give any other businesses using that name other than for XOOPS CMS and e-Xoops. therefore you have grounds for seeking arbitration under this international agreement.

the company that registered this name is exactly doing this for profit to sell back to xoops. i noticed they have also registered postnuke.fr, winamp.fr and a lot more..

they should not be allowed to get away with this.. but unfortunately as stated above, XOOPS community doesn't have the resources or funds to pursue such an action.. as in all these cases it's the complainant who has to pay the bill and compensation can't be awarded whether the complainant wins or loses..

but i would think winamp will have the necessary funding if thewy want to contest it.

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