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gridguy
XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/10/30 5:27

  • gridguy

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 16

  • Since: 2003/10/30


What is the success of getting your XOOPS 2 site registered, crawled and indexed with the like of yahoo, lycos, google??? Do their crawlers, spyders, indexers "dig" into the dynamic areas of a XOOPS portal?

Looking for real experiences - not theory please.


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DobePhat
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/10/30 5:47

  • DobePhat

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 656

  • Since: 2003/4/15


In my experience thus far....the message board gets sought out the most. Look up a XOOPS based site and ask to see "omitted results" and chances are you are going to see a lot of bb posts. I have been a little dissapointed that news doesn't get indexed as much...but over all yes it does get spidered and indexed.

The only thing I wish we could remedy is..pages that are wrapped, and iff you have a lot of links on it, then they don't really get search like a static page would.

But if you create custom blocks (html) these are usually searched as well...


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gridguy
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/10/31 14:03

  • gridguy

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 16

  • Since: 2003/10/30


Thanks for your perspective...I will build out my site, make sure proper meta tags are in place.

Do you have experience registering your sites with the major search engines or do you have to pay for that these days...i know Yahoo wants me to list for $299/year which is insane...I think you can still list with AltaVista and Google for free...

Are there any real-world experiences out there fellow webmasters?

-GG

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Seven
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/11/3 3:47

  • Seven

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 11

  • Since: 2003/10/16


You can list with Google for free..... Yahoo use Google now so you will be automatically listed with YAHOO.. I only listed my site with GOOGLE and when I check referers now, I find a lot from GOOGLE and other search engines including YAHOO.

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ajaxbr
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/11/3 4:37

  • ajaxbr

  • Quite a regular

  • Posts: 276

  • Since: 2003/10/25


You can always pay to improve your placement, but usually you can get into most search engines without spending cash.

Google will spider any links to your site, so including it in link databases like the one in xoops.org would help a lot.

Yahoo! will let you include your site in their directory for free if it's not commercial. If you have a commercial site, make a personal one linking to it and add it (personal) to yahoo!.

The greatest source of information for search engines lately is the Open Directory at dmoz.org, I guess. You can submit your site and have it listed in the right category for free.

Altavista, Lycos, Google, all will let you submit your site for free but with no guarantee of inclusion. Some smaller services, like aeiwi.com/, will add you right away.

All in all, best thing you can do to get good places in search engines is having interesting content. Choosing the right words for creating links (never "click here", "here", "this one", always something related to whatever the link points to) will help too. Getting people to link to your site is always good, specially if those people are somehow related to your site's subject. Never use link farms or banner exchanging programs, they are annoying and don't work well.

Good luck

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jctsup1
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2003/11/3 5:29

  • jctsup1

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 146

  • Since: 2002/5/23


I have had 2.5 million hits to my site in the last 3 months with 86% of my "referral" traffic coming from Google & MSN...

For some reason, Google, MSN, Looksmart & some of the other search engines routinely crawl & spider my site. I am generally within the top 20 results...

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djsckizo
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2004/1/16 4:57

  • djsckizo

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 401

  • Since: 2003/5/9 8


Funny I ran across this today...the same day I was looking at my AW stats...here are some of the odd keyphrases results I found for December:

-desktopscreen

-************ to my pictures (I edited that myself, in case any kids or muppets are watching)

-dec 2003 forum passwords porn

-relationship boredom

-advice on boredom

-how do i cure my boredom?

-boredom problems

-pick my nose

-2003 i need a cure email me


and my two favorites:

-asian females looking for relationship with email for free

-cure for fish boredom


Note: my site slogan is "A Cure for Boredom" so that is why boredom is found through out my list.

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MadFish
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2004/1/16 6:05

  • MadFish

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1056

  • Since: 2003/9/27


In my experience, it is difficult to STOP Google from finding and indexing your page. There is lots of juicy information on how to submit your site and how Google indexes your site available through their FAQ.

I have a private (I thought !) site that I have been using more or less as a test zone for developing my work site. Its small, insignificant and has very little on it, but Google still found and indexed it without me doing anything at all.

Google has certainly found my news page, I haven't got any forums so I can't comment on that. I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows how deeply/how many layers Google will dig into a site - since this may have ramifications for use of subcategories.

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djsckizo
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2004/1/16 14:58

  • djsckizo

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 401

  • Since: 2003/5/9 8


well apparently google is finding everything in my message board, which is the reason for the strange results...well, all of them except the asian email thing and fish boredom

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carnuke
Re: XOOPS2 and registering with major search engines.
  • 2004/1/16 15:22

  • carnuke

  • Home away from home

  • Posts: 1955

  • Since: 2003/11/5


You may like to view my post HERE regarding seach engine optmisation. CMS watch has some very good articles about this subject. From what I understand many search engines will not index past query strings found in database addresses. Google is an exception also hot-bot. The other problem is that there is only one set of meta tags avaiable for all of a XOOPS site. This is not good SEO. However... Google tends to rank on content and link popularity rather than meta contents. What would really help is if there was a voluntary 'link bank' that all XOOPS users could register their site URL with. If everyone included that list in their links pages' then link popularity would soar! This is especially true if some of those sites are already very busy.

Just some thoughts, it seems like some XOOPS sites enjoy good ranking anyway!

Richard

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