Posted on: 2007/3/11 2:19
Re: Xoops 2.3/2.4 or 3.0 update?
i believe why XOOPS looks dying slowly not because of active developer/contributor, but it because too many leecher. They want something from XOOPS but they won't contribute anything to XOOPS. Thats my point.
So, I talk here, from the LEECHER perspective (including me). Believe or not, leecher devided in to 2 groups, 1 is really happy to be a leecher forever, and another one want to go out from being leecher but need some help from YOU (active developer) to go out from leecher community.
I'm failing to grasp your concept of leecher and how it applies to the open source community at large.
No one here has been, currently is, or ever will be a "leecher". thats just not in the spirit of things.
Everyone is a user, and every user is a conrtibuter.
How are XOOPS users contributers? It's simple, "Just use it!"
Using the system, users familiarise themselves with many different aspects it presents. Be that simple user administration, adding a forum module to their own site, using a theme, or actually taking the bull by the horns and looking at the code to see how it works. Whether that bee a block, a module, template, or theme. Who cares. Everyone starts somewhere.
Many people in this community started off with nothing. Little knowlege of PHP, or mySQL. Many of those same so called "leechers" went on to carreers in code development because they used a system that is open to all for fair use and redistribution.
Some of the biggest contributers in the past started off knowing little more then what to put between < body > tags. WF-Modules and Smartfactory didn't appear out of thin air. Wolfcatz may be long gone, but there are still a great many people in this very community working hard on their own projects.
How can you come here and ask more of them when they are all busy trying to improve the very thing you critisize.
I believe, currently XOOPS lack of active contributor compared to joomla/drupal. Do you think I happy with this? myself is programmer. However, i only have little time to contribute, and i don't have time to read ALL XOOPS source code and try to understand how to use it.
not at all. I know i can contribute something, since i
Do you think your the only person here who has a lack of time to contribute? How incredibly hypocritical! I say it again, how can you come here and accuse others of not contributiong, when they are in the same position as you. Lack of time, resources, what have you.
I want to stress my point, believe it or not, the ROOT of most of XOOPS problem is lack of active contributor. If we want to IMPROVE XOOPS, we need to fix the ROOT problem, not the problem that born from the root.
Your no help. What? Complaining helps? Do something about it!
AND I BELIEVE we can fix this ROOT problem is by having GOOD documentation, including (have some but mostly not complete and outdated):
How dare you use the word "WE" when you have done nothing to contribute by your own admission. Excuses are nothing more then that.
1) List all XOOPS API and their usage (eg: with examples)
2) Have some tutorial, how to develop modules and using XOOPS API correctly
3) Step by step tutorial how to create template
4) Step by step how to install xoops, install module etc (xoops have it, but not updated)
You have suggestions. Great, keep them coming. There's nothing new here, people are aware of all this and from what I can tell are working to keep things updated and documented as best as they can.
You SHOULD'T aspect LEECHER like us to do that. We know nothing (or very minimal) about XOOPS.
Speak for yourself.
Thats why i HIGHLY recommend all active contributor to STOP all development (including modules) and CONCENTRATE for a few month to complete the documentation.
You have got to be kidding me!
You want all the documentation work done for you. You want everything spelled out for you step by step, so that you can attempt to make a contribution. You know what, nevermind...
I believe, when XOOPS have very good documentation, gradually leecher will upgrade themself become active contributor and the original active contributor can concentrate on CORE development, instead of BUSY with modules.
You have no idea how the many different areas around here work do you? Cut with the kyfe and put your fingers where your keyboard is.
XOOPS afterall is powered by you!
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