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tom
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 17:57

  • tom

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1359

  • Since: 2002/9/21


Quote:
I think most site owners get too hung up on their Forums and various bells and whistles. While the end users really don't care which forum package you use. All they want to be able to do is have a discussion, and use smilies.


Well said Malexandria, I don't get it too, Newbb is fine, we don't need this that and the other, imho.

The only thing I would like to see in XOOPS is notification of PM's via E-mail which I think would be cool, and the option to turn it on or off for different groups.

Apart from that, Newbb goes down a treat.

Sorry for making 3 posts, but because of the ammount of writing in each post, I felt it better to reply sep.
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292862
tom
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 17:41

  • tom

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  • Since: 2002/9/21


Quote:
I am currently running 4 XOOPS sites, all of which have been converted to use the IPBoard by koudanshi. The features of the IBF module far outweigh any issues about waiting for updates post-official-upgrade. If it werent for the availability of the IBF module, I would never have chosen XOOPS as my CMS.


Good luck updating your XOOPS site, when XOOPS CMS gets upgraded, that will be a fair wack of work, a long waiting time until the module dev updates his.

The problem with swoping the main forums for Xoops, is all the users, still using Newbb, what happens to there posts, Devs then have to create upgrade scripts, then XOOPS is no longer XOOPS but XoopsIBF and means we use a non GPL board, and are forced to keep links back to the IBF site, which from a business point of view don't look too good. of course this is all IMHO
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tom
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 17:29

  • tom

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  • Since: 2002/9/21


Quote:
This is coming from a total PHP / CMS newbie purely from the viewpoint of manageablity and functionality and site layout. I almost chose PHP-Nuke over XOOPS with one of the main reasons being PHP-Nukes use of the phpBB forums (I also like the Somara XP theme for PHP-Nuke, I'm sick I know ) . One of the other major issues I have is with XOOPS is the CSS aligment issues with the seemingly very broken IE 5.X.


2 things:

You could use the phpbb module or IBF module

There is a windows theme for xoops, infact I'm sure I seen two on one of the theme sites.

Hope this helps
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292864
Shufflebug
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 15:32

  • Shufflebug

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 40

  • Since: 2002/6/19


Quote:
but the XOOPS-standard private messenger is sorely lacking. After transferring to the IBF Module, you can track messages to know when they have been read & even delete them before they are read... very nifty features.


This is one of the features i miss too in newBB. Especially the thing you didn't mention thepod, the notification email that is sent when receiving a new PM !! I think this feature would take my users to log in more often on site, 'cause they know there's a new msg for them.
We have a global notification system in XOOPS 2 now, why not using this one to notify about new PMs as well ?? I think there's a big lack !

Shufflebug

p.s. thepod, what did you mean with Quote:
I have also replaced the XOOPS avatar system with the IBF avatar system, because its so much more practical on so many levels, & it looks better too.
?
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292865
pod
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 13:42

  • pod

  • Quite a regular

  • Posts: 301

  • Since: 2003/4/19


Quote:
I think most site owners get too hung up on their Forums and various bells and whistles. While the end users really don't care which forum package you use. All they want to be able to do is have a discussion, and use smilies.


I think you are very wrong, I think the end users thrive on the novelty of a pimped out board. In fact I know this to be true, because when I tried months ago to switch my users from Ikonboard to postnuke (using phpbb), they all flipped out. Even in the transition to XOOPS I lost over half my members, but now that they are realizing that InvisionBoard is just as good as Ikonboard or better, they are coming back in droves, praising the new forum. They dont seem to care about the cool news & links & totally integrated comments system, they couldnt give a damn that its beautifully written unique code. All the emoticons in the world cannot compensate for excellence of communications.

Plus, I dont mean to rag on XOOPS cuz IMO its the best free CMS out there, but the XOOPS-standard private messenger is sorely lacking. After transferring to the IBF Module, you can track messages to know when they have been read & even delete them before they are read... very nifty features. I have also replaced the XOOPS avatar system with the IBF avatar system, because its so much more practical on so many levels, & it looks better too. The IBF Module adds a lot to XOOPS, period. Its about to be upgraded too, I cant wait...
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292866
DaBoyz
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 12:45

  • DaBoyz

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  • Posts: 79

  • Since: 2002/8/8 1


Quote:
I honestly can't see what all these other forums offer that NewBB DOESN'T.


MODERATION like in the news module : webmaster can read a post before publishing ...

Some persons could answer that the forum will not be a real forum after that but I could answer that I don't want to activate the option at first but I would like to have the opportunity to do this on a specific forum if I needed to (otherwise, I must close all the module) ...
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292867
HughG
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 12:26

  • HughG

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 124

  • Since: 2003/2/21


For the most part, I think XOOPS is the next best thing since PB&J. But i still find myself going, "gosh i wish..." and it's usually in the areas of the forums.

Whistles and bells would be nice, but not needed. I think some of these just add to the clutter. Clutter in the user interface and clutter in the consequent posts.

I would perfer more basic features however...

Things like:

-Moderators able to delete a single post rather than the whole thread...
-Moderatorts being able to move a single post to another area rather than the whole thread..
-A mark all posts read ablility - (i get hounded on this by users quite a bit)

Those are the things I feel newBB is missing and have me looking (sometimes) at the other Forum offerings. The only thing that keeps me from going that route is the cringe i get when having to do core overwrites these require.



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292868
malexandria
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

I think most site owners get too hung up on their Forums and various bells and whistles. While the end users really don't care which forum package you use. All they want to be able to do is have a discussion, and use smilies.

I honestly can't see what all these other forums offer that NewBB DOESN'T. It even now has a notifications feature. About the only thing missing, maybe is the ability to follow threads in their email, which basically becomes a listserve at that point. Again it has notifications feature, threaded/flat few, smilies, and it even looks like phpbb, icon board, blah, blah. Best of all it's fully integrated into the core. So I don't get where this need or desire comes from to swap it with something else.
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292869
brash
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 11:56

  • brash

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 2206

  • Since: 2003/4/10


Hey thepod, you have just answer 2 out of the 3 highest ranking reservations I had about XOOPS. After reading your post I went straight to that site and have already got IPBoard working on my testsite and will give his phpBB module a spin in the next week.

Only problem I've had is that I've been unable to get the login hack to work . However through tinkering I've managed to stop my site working at all , lucky I backed up. I'm using a W2K / IIS combo, are you able to point me in the direction of getting this login hack to work? I've tried doing everything discussed on the forums there, but nothing changes.
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292870
pod
Re: time to say goodbye to newbb?

  • 2003/6/24 10:16

  • pod

  • Quite a regular

  • Posts: 301

  • Since: 2003/4/19


I am currently running 4 XOOPS sites, all of which have been converted to use the IPBoard by koudanshi. The features of the IBF module far outweigh any issues about waiting for updates post-official-upgrade. If it werent for the availability of the IBF module, I would never have chosen XOOPS as my CMS.

A forum is quite possibly the most important part of a community site, second to the ability of the community to easily access the site in the first place. Koudanshi has single handedly made XOOPS 1000x more user-friendly in these respects, as his Login Hack in conjunction with the IBF module solve 2 big XOOPS issues: a sub-standard forum & A CMS that lets ur session expire mid-activity, formerly incapable of "remembering me".

I think the XOOPS Dev team should seriously consider adopting this module, all parties willing. It is an outstanding module as is, integrated not into the comments but into everything else: Recent Activity displayed in XOOPS profile & all. If you take the time to register on
this site you can see how I have integrated it seemlessly into the rest of the site, the 'Recent Topics' block serves the function of the Recent Comments block, only better, with more detailed information...
I'm just saying, if its this good already, imagine what the whole XOOPS team could do to improve on it if they were to take it on as a Core module. It might blow up.

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