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jegelstaff
Re: Xoops and money DO mix!

Quote:

jegelstaff wrote:
Technology, and software, is everywhere now, and the internet has put a lot of people and organizations in situations where they are relying on software without any need or interest in owning it. It's a service, like water or electricity, not a product. Most organizations don't have the technical capacity to manage the technology even if they owned it.


Here's a great link that discusses how things are changing, and about open source and business models:

http://tim.oreilly.com/opensource/paradigmshift_0504.html

Quote:

"I have a simple test that I use in my talks to see if my audience of computer industry professionals is thinking with the old paradigm or the new. "How many of you use Linux?" I ask. Depending on the venue, 20-80% of the audience might raise its hands. "How many of you use Google?" Every hand in the room goes up. And the light begins to dawn. Every one of them uses Google's massive complex of 100,000 Linux servers, but they were blinded to the answer by a mindset in which "the software you use" is defined as the software running on the computer in front of you."



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MonkeyBubble
Re: Whitewater Rafting theme needed...

The site is at mhuga.monkeybubbles.com. To be honest, it is a bunch of guys between the ages of 25 to 60. They get together once a year to camp and raft for a weekend. Needless to say, there is camping, cooking, rafting, volleyball, trash-talking, and generally a great time. This tends to make me want to lean towards a fun looking site, but not childish in nature. I also like the dark colors of the current theme.

I have toyed with making modifications to themes, but I don't have the artistic/graphics talent to create what I desire for this site.

I am looking for ideas as well as a general cost involved with the site. If you have any samples of your previous work, I would like to see them.

I also seem to have posted this in the wrong section. Guess I should have scrolled and searched a bit more before I posted. If a mod can move this down to the "Theme Request" category, I would be grateful.



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libervis
Re: My articles don't display (wf-sections)!!!
  • 2004/9/30 14:07

  • libervis

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 183

  • Since: 2004/7/4 1


Thanks for answering..

Here's what the debug says for article pages:


Notice [PHP]: Undefined index: articlepage in file modules/wfsection/article.php line 68

IN the future i'll use this more often when there are problems since this does gives a clue at least. However, i'm not sure what to do according to this debug notice, you probably do know. Please let me know.

Thank you
Daniel



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rcjohnson
Re: iFrames ...????
  • 2004/9/30 14:04

  • rcjohnson

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 187

  • Since: 2004/7/23


its kinda funny, that site uses a 7dana-jane theme, albeit serverly hacked, and also displays a "code of eithics" link.



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jegelstaff
Re: Xoops and money DO mix!

Quote:

Bunny wrote:
even make a living - from Xoops. Hey, I'm positively thrilled by the thought of professionals working full time on and with Xoops.


I recently found this very interesting thread, and thought I'd mention...

For the past three months, my company has had about one and a half full time staff positions devoted to work with XOOPS. We are a not-for-profit company that helps other not-for-profits make better use technology.

Not all of those 4.5 "man-months" have been development time. The difference between using XOOPS for fun in your spare time, and using XOOPS in a professional context, is that professional software projects require a lot of different types of work besides just lots of web hacking.

So besides development of modules and core modifications, we have also had to do documentation, workflow design (to figure out how real world business processes will map onto the tools and modules in XOOPS), and a whole lot of support to end users.

There are also a lot more ways that business models and open source can work than simply whether you are being paid by someone else to write code or not. I would argue that being paid to write code is an old-economy view of how software development gets paid for. Technology, and software, is everywhere now, and the internet has put a lot of people and organizations in situations where they are relying on software without any need or interest in owning it. It's a service, like water or electricity, not a product. Most organizations don't have the technical capacity to manage the technology even if they owned it.

In our case, we are not a web development company, we are a consulting and general IT service company. Our clients don't pay us to develop. They pay us to provide solutions to them (in many cases that does mean websites). And technical issues like whether its XOOPS or not, or open-source, or proprietary, or anything like that, the client doesn't care, they have a specific need and they leave technology issues to us (that's why you hire consultants, because you don't know what to do yourself). We solve the need and they don't really care how it's done, as long as it works and they know how to use it in the end.

We host all the sites ourselves too, another part of the service we provide. And so far we have not distributed any of the major work we have done, yet it is all GPL. So XOOPS and money and open source sure do mix, but they also mix up the normal way we think about the business models that have supported software development up until now.

When software is a service, not a product, everything changes.

There can be excellent benefits for open-source projects when this kind of thing happens, as Bunny suggested. In our case, we are most likely going to be implementing some more sophistocated group and user administration features because our sites require them, and if or when we get around to that, they will be returned to the core for everyone's use.

--Julian



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Mithrandir
Xoops : Scheduled XOOPS.org server maitenance

The XOOPS.org server (which runs this site, dev.xoops.org, docs.xoops.org, and wiki.xoops.org) will be shutdown for routine maitenance and upgrades on Friday, October 1st at 1:00pm CST (GMT-6). The server will return by Monday, October 4th. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Those looking to download XOOPS or modules while this site is down can do so through XOOPS's sourceforge website



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rowdie
Re: News module (2 questions)
  • 2004/9/30 13:49

  • rowdie

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 846

  • Since: 2004/7/21


For your problem with the time you need to find formatTimestamp() in the news php files and give it a second parameter of "s".

i.e. formatTimestamp($article->published(), "s");

That will make it use the _SHORTDATESTRING format you defined in the language/english/global.php file of Xoops.

Rowd



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leeloominae
Re: Can I have two forums? and modules question
  • 2004/9/30 13:33

  • leeloominae

  • Just popping in

  • Posts: 4

  • Since: 2004/9/27


Hi, thanks for your answer, it was really useful.

I know almost nothing about xoops, but I'm learning.

I want to have two forums because one will work as a forum itself, but the other one is only to post articles and I like the way the forums display things. I don't want the articles categories mixed with the other forums categories.

Regards,

Leeloominae



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sikey
Re: MySQL Gurus Required - The meaning of the xoops_session table?
  • 2004/9/30 13:30

  • sikey

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 151

  • Since: 2003/4/29


i'm getting similar problems... my XOOPS database everyday has "Overhead" on different tables, which in turn i have to fix with phpmyadmin... it's strange cause i have tons of databases running different scripts, some handling more traffic than xoops, but it is the only one it happens to...



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flyingtux
Re: Image upload not being saved to directory
  • 2004/9/30 13:28

  • flyingtux

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 146

  • Since: 2004/9/6 1


Hi kaotik!
Why don't try to have a look at the xoopsgallery code? It perfectly uploads files in the specified directory.







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