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peterr
Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/4 10:07

  • peterr

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Fromhttp://smartfactory.ca/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=118

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The SmartFactory Support Forums are moving to ????? !
Published by Tom [tom] on 2008-06-30 (101 reads)
Great news for the SmartFactory modules users! The SmartFactory is pleased to announce a new important step towards a more integrated, unified community developed and supported open source project! As you might know, all the people behind The SmartFactory are among the initiators of the ????? Project and are now 100% invested in this project. Because of this, The SmartFactory Team spend much of its "forum" time on the ????? forums. This may also be the case for other module developers and theme designers.

The SmartFactory will be joining Aphex Themes and Mr Themes on ????? with their own forums.

So what does this mean?

Starting July 1st, The SmartFactory's forums will be locked down and links will be provided towards the ????? forums. Support for the SmartFactory's modules will be created on the ????? Community site. SmartFactory's module users and developers will then be able to use a much more active forum to find an answer to their question and to help others. We believe that the Open Collaborative nature of ????? will allow us to provide a better service for all not only in providing support but in producing far better modules as well.

We realise this may raise concerns for XOOPS users and would like to reasure you that this does not mean XOOPS users will be abandoned, quite the contrary, XOOPS users are more than welcome to ask for support with SmartModules in the new forums on ?????. However, we will not be able to provide support in the xoops.org forums or submit announcements and updates there because we no longer have permission or access to that site.


What does this mean for XOOPS users who are using any of the SmartFactory modules ? Why don't SmartFactory have permission or access to this site ? Can someone please explain what is going on, as there would be thousands of XOOPS users, who are currently using SmartFactory modules ?

How does this affect other modules, like 'wf-links', which uses SmartObject I think.

Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS, and going more towards supporting ????? ?

More athttp://smartfactory.ca/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=118

Interesting that this post has replaced the word 'Impress CMS' with '?????'
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trabis
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/4 12:51

  • trabis

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Not only some users but even ?cms word was banned and is not welcome on xoops.org. I won´t talk about this, I already gave my opinion.

Smartmodules will probally loose compatibility with xoops. Smartobject is already part of the I?ms core so I think it is a matter of time.

I would not bother with lack of support. Ic?s doesn´t have word nor users restritions.

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Mamba
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/4 13:16

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Quote:
What does this mean for XOOPS users who are using any of the SmartFactory modules ?

Realistically, probably not much. Facts are our friends, so let's take a look at the support provided on SmartFactory Website:

SmartBlocks Community Support:
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=29

Problem posted on Feb 3, 2008, and they finally asked 5 months later about his PHP Version
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2340&forum=29

WF-Downloads Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=12

Posted on March 31 - no response from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2389&forum=12

SmartFAQ Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=4

Problem posted on April 25, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2414&forum=4

Problem posted on May 19, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2429&forum=4

SmartPartner Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=9

100% unanswered

Posted on July 1 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2447&forum=9

Posted on June 29 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2445&forum=9

Restated on May 10 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2420&forum=9

Posted on March 5 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2361&forum=9

Posted on March 30 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2387&forum=9

Posted on March 30 - no response till today from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2386&forum=9

SmartSection Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=5

Question posted on May 17, 2008 - till today no response from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2006&forum=5

Question posted on May 17, 2008 - till today no response from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2425&forum=5

Question posted on May 18, 2008 - till today no response from Smart Factory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2426&forum=5

XOOPS Multilanguages Community support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=7

Problem posted on March 13, 2008 - the follow up question was 2 months later on May 2nd from another user, but NOT from SmartFactory.
Another user posted the same problem on May 31 - till today no follow-up from SmartFactory
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2313&forum=7

Problem posted on Jan. 30, 2008. After several follow-ups from that user, they finally respond 3 months later with "An interesting problem - we'll look into this for you." Till today, no follow-up from Smart Factory.
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2337&forum=7

SmartMedia Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=11

100% of problems posted this year are not aswered

Problem posted on Marrch 25, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2380&forum=11

Problem posted on Feb 26, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2356&forum=11

Problem posted on Feb 3, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2341&forum=11

Problem posted on Jan 25, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2334&forum=11

SmartProfile Community Support
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=30

50% not answered

Problem posted on April 8, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2398&forum=30

Problem reposted on March 31, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2381&forum=30

Problem posted on March 27, 2008 - till today no response
http://smartfactory.ca/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2383&forum=30
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So as you can see, with probably only exception of WF-Downloads, the support is very sporadic there, to say the least.

But the fact is that many users of SmartFactory modules are coming for support to XOOPS Forums, and are getting help (e.g. see this thread or this thread).

So no reason to worry - we will provide support for SmartFactory modules here on XOOPS Website.

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Can someone please explain what is going on, as there would be thousands of XOOPS users, who are currently using SmartFactory modules? How does this affect other modules, like 'wf-links', which uses SmartObject I think.

There is and will be no effect for XOOPS users who are currently using SmartFactory modules. All current versions of SmartFactory modules that work on XOOPS will continue working on XOOPS. And we as a community will continue to provide support for these modules to the best of our capabilities. Remember - this is OpenSource and we all have the source, so things can be fixed, as needed.
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peterr
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/4 13:49

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Mamba - Thanks very much for your reply. I must admit I have posted a few bug fixes at Smartfactory forums in the past, and they seem to go unnoticed, .... oh well.

That's good that modules like Smartsection and SmartObject will continue to be supported here. My main concern is actually website security, and at present, with Protector and other changes, the website I run XOOPS on, is well, as 'safe as it can be', from malicious users. So, I wondered if the whole XOOPS core and the modules I use, may be 'at risk'.

However, you have re-assured me, ... thanks a lot.

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Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/5 16:48

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How does this affect other modules, like 'wf-links', which uses SmartObject I think.

WF-Links doesn't use SmartObject since version 1.05 RC-1.
WF-Links and MyTube support forums:http://members.lycos.nl/mcdonaldsstore/phpBB2/ (might not be accessible from all countries)


Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS, and going more towards supporting I C M S?

Perhaps it was XOOPS moving away from SmartFactory like they did from GIJOE. It just depends on how you look at it.

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peterr
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/7 6:08

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Quote:
Perhaps it was XOOPS moving away from SmartFactory like they did from GIJOE. It just depends on how you look at it.


The initiation of any fork of XOOPS, would be for various reasons, however we cannot say that the initiation was 'forced' upon people. That is, XOOPS didn't force any forks, people were supposedly mature enough to make the decision themselves.

Only recently, 'McDonald' stated ...

Quote:

Sooner or later I will change my website to another CMS and this will probably be Impress CMS. When this will happen I will probably drop the support for Xoops.


This wasn't forced upon 'McDonald' by the XOOPS developers or XOOPS community, nor did XOOPS 'move away' from wf-links.

I'm just saying that people make their own decisions.
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Mamba
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/7 9:06

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Quote:
Perhaps it was XOOPS moving away from SmartFactory like they did from GIJOE. It just depends on how you look at it.

Ron, let Marcan (i.e. SmartFactory) speak for himself and show that it was him who decided to move away from XOOPS.
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Ario_Barzan
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?

@ peterr: People take decisions but the situation and whoever involved involved in it can force them to take decisions.

Quote:
Ron, let Marcan (i.e. SmartFactory) speak for himself and show that it was him who decided to move away from XOOPS.


@ Mamba: marcan is not SmartFactory, Remember that , and I did not see anything in that post about SmartFactory. In fact do not forget the way you have behaved with them!

BTW there is definitely a wise thought behind this decision, that you might not comprehend correctly ...

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trabis
Re: Are SmartFactory moving away from XOOPS ?
  • 2008/7/11 21:47

  • trabis

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