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Mamba

Moderator
Posted on: 2008/4/2 16:43
Mamba
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Posts: 10823
Since: 2004/4/23
#181

Re: Show us the $$$....!

beeblebrox, please read our "Terms of Use".

It's stated there that Quote:
"Content on XOOPS Project websites should never conflict with the Purpose of promoting and supporting the XOOPS Project and the XOOPS community.
XOOPS reserves the right to refuse or delete any Content of which it becomes aware and reasonably deems not to fulfill the Purpose."


Obviously, xunil's post didn't "promote and support XOOPS Project", I hope, you'll agree with it. So coming here and bashing XOOPS, while promoting competing projects, is not very constructive. That's why his message has been edited.

And it's not about sugar-coating. If somebody wants to provide a constructive criticism, because they care and want to help, we're all open. But if somebody wants to bash XOOPS like xunil did, we are not interested.

I hope, it clarifies that.
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MadFish

Friend of XOOPS
Posted on: 2008/4/2 17:47
MadFish
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Posts: 1056
Since: 2003/9/27
#182

Re: Show us the $$$....!

I didn't see it as bashing, I thought it was constructive criticism, anyway, just my opinion.

dantoso [banned]

Just popping in
Posted on: 2008/4/2 19:08
dantoso [banned]
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Posts: 8
Since: 2004/2/7 1
#183

Re: Show us the MONEY, XOOPS Foundation

Marco wrote:
Quote:

any news about the 2007 report?
i really hope this silly tool that adds dispersion in our project (that is supposed to be an open source project) has been dissolved, and that funds have been donated to a charity organization.


Please, don't accept the idea to donate the money for the charity. Smells like a good idea, but is not:

xoops.org with the money = bad to ???? (in the point of view of the XOOPS foundation / ???? team).
money to charity = good to ???? team, bad to XOOPS project


The money can be used at least in a better dedicated server and domains fees, or in prizes for the contests to pick the best theme of the week, or the best module of the month, or anything else to boost the XOOPS project.

+ Meetup's - Conferences
+ Competitions
+ Develop much needed modules on behalf of the community.
+ Self sufficient - No relying on sponsors whom can pull the plug when they wish
+ Sponsoring other projects which could be beneficial
+ Further advertising including higher listings on such sites as Hotscripts.com

Of course there are other things also.

Although it can be a negative force, it can be a much more powerful positive force, providing it's used in a responsible way and not at the discretion of one person, I don't see any issue

Bender

Home away from home
Posted on: 2008/4/2 20:51
Bender
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Posts: 1899
Since: 2003/3/10
#184

Re: Show us the $$$....!

Hi dantoso,

be carefull. Your post will probably be edited a bit because you actualy named a different cms product in a possibly not XOOPS improving way. (it could cause people to look for it just by talking about it and possibly using it later on - therefore ... not improving)


I will not use the name in my reply:

Quote:
Please, don't accept the idea to donate the money for the charity. Smells like a good idea, but is not:

xoops.org with the money = bad to *******cms (in the point of view of the XOOPS foundation / *******cms team).
money to charity = good to *******cms team, bad to XOOPS project


With not nearly as much information as in the old days i would say ...

1. To the best of my knowledge no money went into the product you named from XOOPS foundation

2. It would probably not matter to that other system for reason 1 anyway.

3. The Xoopsfoundation was clearly not wanted by most(not all) of those running this site. (check back on older postings)

4. Marco has been stating that this project is not mature enough for a foundation and for handling any money for a long long time. (check back on older postings) That means long before the project you mentioned came into life. And there was no real opposition to that position from the community nor the current team.(check back on older postings) Even at that time donating it was the suggestion of choice. In your opinion: Is the project now more mature then several months ago? Would/Could it cause fighting between people with different opinions as to what to do with it if you would have it?

5. Your suggestions for how to use it are of course pretty much valid. However ... the points before.

6. There should be a topic where you can read djs stance on banners when he moved the site if i remember correctly. Should be worth searching for. So much for future money involvement in this project.

7. I personally would like to see part of the money - if it were here - used to pay someone for taking care of privacy issues on this site.

Well ... my 0.02 cents
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MM566

Just popping in
Posted on: 2008/4/2 22:37
MM566
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#185

Re: Show us the $$$....!

[EDIT: removed personal attacks, the user has been banned]
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damaster

Just can't stay away
Posted on: 2008/4/2 23:57
damaster
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Posts: 556
Since: 2003/5/11
#186

Re: Show us the $$$....!

So, the XOOPS Foundation continues to make money on Xoops
and lmprezcms considering XOOPS members idiots

I found Marcan really freaky using the expression "Open Source Spirit" on the same thread saying "enemies".

Is that a call to fight? I'm ready for a new battle

Xoops Foundation and lmprezcms choose the dark side
that's Free will - Libre arbitre - Willensfreiheit

Should we fight darkness!?

I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

Anonymous

Posted on: 2008/4/3 7:04
Anonymous
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Since:
#187

Re: Show us the $$$....!

once more you draw your own conclusions nuno..

but based on what? your hate for us, that's what.

and yet again you prove yourself and mikhail un trustworthy by hacking accounts yet again, and well XOOPS management and mods accept this and still allow you to take part.

go ahead, it's all evidence to us, and before you can prosecute someone you need evidence. and by god we are raking the evidence in on you two. can't wait to hand over all that information to Interpol Computer Crimes department.

???? has not used or received any money from the XOOPS foundation!!!!

[...]

and being as we know you can read those private forums Damaster, did it not sink in that we deliberately post certain things in those private forums for you to copy & start a flame war about? yes, they were there for your amusement, and for our benefit because now you have blatantly posted those private discussions yet again, is more proof of hacking, just the thing that Interpol has asked for. and even more so that XOOPS admin are also receiving and using this information is also a cause for prosecution.. well done.. keep feeding the feud with false disinformation..

so carry on, you keep up with your crap, and we'll just keep sending the evidence to Interpol..

MM566

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Posted on: 2008/4/3 7:27
MM566
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#188

Re: Show us the $$$....!

Quote:

m0nty v2 wrote:

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Show us the money and get the peace of god.

Should be simple.

Another thing:

Quote:

'The gang' has not used or received any money from the XOOPS foundation!!!!


Don't lie, please:

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<
VirtualHost 66.7.200.200>
ServerAlias www.xoopsfoundation.org
ServerAdmin webmaster
@xoopsfoundation.org
DocumentRoot 
/home/xpsfndtn/public_html
ServerName xoopsfoundation
.org

<IfModule mod_userdir.c>
  
Userdir disabled
  Userdir enabled xpsfndtn
</IfModule>

SuexecUserGroup xpsfndtn xpsfndtn
CustomLog 
/usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsfoundation.org-bytes_log "%{%s}t %I .n%{%s}t %O ."
CustomLog /usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsfoundation.org combined
Options 
-ExecCGI -Includes
</VirtualHost>


<
VirtualHost 66.7.200.200>
ServerAlias www.xoopsdocs.org
ServerAdmin webmaster
@xoopsdocs.org
DocumentRoot 
/home/xoopsdoc/public_html
ServerName xoopsdocs
.org

<IfModule mod_userdir.c>
  
Userdir disabled
  Userdir enabled xoopsdoc
</IfModule>

SuexecUserGroup xoopsdoc xoopsdoc
CustomLog 
/usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsdocs.org-bytes_log "%{%s}t %I .n%{%s}t %O ."
CustomLog /usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsdocs.org combined
Options 
-ExecCGI -Includes
</VirtualHost>


<
VirtualHost 66.7.200.200>
ServerAlias www.xoopsaddons.org
ServerAdmin webmaster
@xoopsaddons.org
DocumentRoot 
/home/xoopsadd/public_html
ServerName xoopsaddons
.org

<IfModule mod_userdir.c>
  
Userdir disabled
  Userdir enabled xoopsadd
</IfModule>

SuexecUserGroup xoopsadd xoopsadd
CustomLog 
/usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsaddons.org-bytes_log "%{%s}t %I .n%{%s}t %O ."
CustomLog /usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsaddons.org combined
Options 
-ExecCGI -Includes
</VirtualHost>


<
VirtualHost 66.7.200.200>
ServerAlias www.xoopsdocs.net
ServerAdmin webmaster
@xoopsdocs.net
DocumentRoot 
/home/xdocsnet/public_html
ServerName xoopsdocs
.net

<IfModule mod_userdir.c>
  
Userdir disabled
  Userdir enabled xdocsnet
</IfModule>

SuexecUserGroup xdocsnet xdocsnet
CustomLog 
/usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsdocs.net-bytes_log "%{%s}t %I .n%{%s}t %O ."
CustomLog /usr/local/apache/domlogs/xoopsdocs.net combined
ScriptAlias 
/cgi-bin/ /home/xdocsnet/public_html/cgi-bin/
</
VirtualHost>



So the server of the XOOPS foundation was used by:

xoops4.biz
xoopsaddons.org
xoopsdocs.net
xoopsdocs.org
xoopsfoundation.org
xoopsinfo.com
xoopsinfo.info
xoopsinfo.net
xoopsinfo.org



Continue:

Quote:

We would like to offer a thank you to the XOOPS Foundation for allowing this Community Project to use (TO BUY) the URL of : www.xoopsaddons.org. The site also shares a common style with the Foundation web site, using a theme whose main design by Snow (XOOPS Design)



And the gran finale of this 'sub-issue':

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damaster

Just can't stay away
Posted on: 2008/4/3 12:10
damaster
damaster (Show more)
Just can't stay away
Posts: 556
Since: 2003/5/11
#189

Re: Show us the $$$....!

Interpol Computer Crimes department will be for sure
a lot more interested in the cash stolen by XOOPS Foundation and impres's cms members

That's an evident crime !
I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

Mamba

Moderator
Posted on: 2008/4/3 12:27
Mamba
Mamba (Show more)
Moderator
Posts: 10823
Since: 2004/4/23
#190

Re: Show us the $$$....!

m0nty2, XOOPS doesn't support hackers, therefore the account of [edit]MM566[/edit] has been banned.

(Please note: as stated in our Terms of Use, XOOPS is not responsible for content posted by the posters here)

However, it is very sad to see the true colors of our former members:

a) Impress'CMS team is seeing XOOPS as its enemy and is having fun by "adding wood to the fire"

b) Impress'CMS leadership (Marc-André Lanciault (aka Marcan), David Ledbury (aka davidl2) are actually having fun with it and applaud their members for doing it

But what is most disturbing is that David Ledbury (aka davidl2), who is still currently on Board of XOOPS Foundation, and as such is legally obligated to represent and protect XOOPS interests, has actually proposed to use XOOPS Community property (xoopsaddns, xoopswiki and dev wiki), as vehicle to promote Impress'CMS.

This kind of behavior cannot go on like this!!! It has to STOP! Therefore I would like to ask Impress'CMS people to "Leave XOOPS alone".

Come on guys, you left this project, started a new one, so move on with your lives and focus on your new project. We don't go there and try to bash your project, so don't come to us and try to "throw more wood into the fire" and having fun with it like little children. It's time to act more professionally.

Marcan and David - please cease and desist using any and all property of XOOPS or funded by XOOPS community, unless it's been released under GPL or other Open Source license. Otherwise we'll have to start legal actions.

And once again, I would like to request the XOOPS Foundation (i.e. Herko Coomans and David Ledbury) to transfer the Foundation to XOOPS Project Council. As seen again and again by your actions, you do NOT represent interests of this community anymore, actually you're acting AGAINST the interests of the XOOPS community, and therefore can not be on the Board of the Foundation.
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