Posted on: 2008/2/11 17:21
Re: define Standard Templates for theme developers - your idea
I believe that Kris_fr has meant good with this contest; and consider that not much productfull dialog has occurred to the points that have been disagreed on. The point of division is on using the templates he mentions as base for the submitted themes.
I don't fully agree on this either but I do see Kris's intentions and agree partly. The con's are: as incama had mentioned, that they limit the creativity and development of the code a theme considered a "standard" can have, because it can always be made differently or optimized and be just as good, and there has been a lack of defining the goals of the contest as Stefan had mentioned. Among the missing objectives....I'd include this one: The theme is a tutorial, in the way it's coded. This way it is an example for those that know less to learn with it, comprehend the XOOPS theme structure, and have a clean, manegeable, compliant css + html. It is the theme(s) that will represent xoops, no?
Still, this is "just a theme" example, not the "ultimate theme example". Also it is "just one of many contests" whose author chose for it to be this way. The way I see it, it's just Kris's effort to make a theme selection where in first place comes the code quality. Yet this is debatable.
- I do believe morphogenesis or css100 is a good example of code.
- I do not believe this should be obligatory for a contest looking to retrieve the best web design developers code, even though if I were to chose a template I'd chose one of them because they handle the html + css in the best structure I've seen in xoops. Still new templates can be done just as good.
Morphogenesis is not old instead it is new and very few have come close to understanding it. If we focus on the theme.html which is the root of all the design, if the main elements are classified in a set of well defined div's, as morphogenesis is (with the exception it has 1 table), or css100-morpho (which is completely tableless) we obtain an template pattern for the system to have a standard in quality. Now that is what Kris is looking forward to. Quality. Considering the objective, I think the contest conditions acceptable as long as the obligatory file is just the theme.html. After all this won't be the last contest....
Besides what's wrong with having standard classes an id's for the basic elements and create a basic template with this as an optional XOOPS resource? What if having standard classes will permit skinning the admin?
More than a year ago Technigrafa started this thread: "Holy Grail CSS Wireframe Theme"
. Concerning themes, members have always had the opportunity to show and share their work. So if the issue is defining a template the opportunity is open for others to submit alternative framework html templates.
The main principle of the contest should continue, respecting the decision of Kris of having a design using the morphogenesis framework, in case of lack participants, I suggest that the judges analyze all the morphogenesis based themes in the past year and just select 1 from there. And start a new contest for the other two themes with the option of being freely coded as long as they are
- Use all the updated xo-code smarty variables for displaying content... including the LCR feature .
... valid, etc.
Giving the chance for submissions of new coded framework templates.