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Re: My ISP has moved the CGI server and now I have a prob.....
  • 2005/6/24 21:36

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Excellent stuff, David. TYVM for that. Worked like a treat :)
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My ISP has moved the CGI server and now I have a prob.....
  • 2005/6/24 18:55

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For reasons known best to themselves, my ISP has launched a new CGI server so we all have to move our sites over to it. I made a backup of my existing site and then uploaded it to the new server. The only difference in the address is a "c"

eg: Old address =http://cgi.lima1.plus.com
New address =http://ccgi.lima1.plus.com

Now if I go to the new index page (the second addy above) everything looks fine but when you click a link on that page, it takes you to the equivalent page on the OLD server. I.e. the address only has one "c" in the addy. I know all the pages are on the new server because if u manually add a "c" in the address bar it goes to the correct page without a problem.

I've looked in the Admin page to see if there is a setting to change but can't find one. Does anyone have an idea how I can put this right?

many thanks in advance.
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Re: What does XOOPS need?
  • 2005/5/28 17:56

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I hear what you say, Herko and that would be an acceptible, maybe desirable philosophy if XOOPS was a game or a toy but it isn't. It's a web building app.

The problem is that this trial and error learning aproach is of no use to anyone who has an active site. If someone running a site has a problem, the last thing they want to be doing is experimenting with solutions that may well totally screw up that site. Especially if that site has active members, signups etc. In this case what they want IS the solution without the experimentation, otherwise they will find themselves fielding angry emails from ppl asking why their site is down again, etc, etc.

Lets just use myself as an example.I've built a Xoops-based web site and officially launched it a lil over a week ago. I was pretty pleased with myself for getting to grips with the basics pretty quick. I won't be adding any more modules as I have the site just how I want it right now. During the time I was putting it together and messing about with it, I came across probs that I couldn't figure out myself so I came here. I would first go to the appropriate forum and scan through the existing threads to see if someone had allready asked the question. Sometimes I was lucky, but most of the time I would see a question that had been asked, that had been viewed dozens of times and had gotten no reply or the infamous "go read the faq". Off I'd trot to the faq and again, sometimes I'd be lucky. When I wasn't I'd post the question myself and yes, you guessed it, I either got no reply or "go read the faq". On one occasion, after the third time of asking, one very helpful person happened to see it and gave me a concise and polite answer. Bingo! Job sorted in seconds.

Now my site is active and I am, on the whole, very happy with it indeed, but it still has a few minor niggles. I've asked about these minor details a number of times with no success and so have just given up asking. If I were a less stuborn person, I may well have thrown in the towel and gone elswhere, which I suspect many sadly have.

My point is, if ppl are tired of reading/answering the same old questions, don't visit the help forums. Leave it to those that like to help but don't go in there just to get snotty at newbies for asking repetetive questions. That's what newbies do.

Think about what the aims of Xoop are. The whole point of it is to make the building of high-end websites easier for ppl that either don't have the knowhow or the inclination to build them from the ground up. For that very reason, you are going to get alot of ppl asking alot of questions. If those ppl are made to feel patronised or foolish, they'll simply go elsewhere.

Please don't mistake this post as me being ticked off, anoyed, etc. I'm far from it. Like I say, I have my site up and running and it is a far better site than I could have built without xoops. But the question was asked "what does XOOPS need?" and as a newbie, these are the probs I encountered when I first got here.



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Re: What does XOOPS need?
  • 2005/5/28 12:02

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jensclas, I'm sorry to have to say this but your reply is the most condesending post I've read on this entire board and does not encourage newbies in the slightest. What you are basicly telling us is "This is Xoops, sink or swim on your own".



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Re: What does XOOPS need? - A newbies perspective
  • 2005/5/27 21:16

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I agree that repetetive questions, especially when they have allready been addressed in the faq, are very frustrating. Unfortunately, it's human nature to be lazy and so many ppl will not bother to read the faq first. It's just one of those things that all sites such as this have to contend with.

I understand that ppl can't be "made" to run around the forums answering newbies questions but given the amount of ppl that use this site and some obviously Old-timers, surely there are a few ppl around that would like to be more involved and help take some of the heat off the dev team?

The problem is a viscious circle. Old-timers get sick of answering repetitive questions and so just stop doing it. Newbies get tired of asking those repetitive questions and getting no answer and so give up on the app.

You're right, I am stating the obvious. It was one of the first things that struck me when I started using this site. You are obviously concerned about what is going on here or you wouldn't have asked the question in the first place. I for one am very happy with the prog. As I stated in another of my posts, XOOPS is just the kind of prog I've been looking for, for a long time and look forward to seeing it develop.

I do appreciate the hard work that you folks put into it. As I am not experienced enough with the program to be of help in any other way, I'm just trying to do what I can by answering your question from a different perspective. No criticism or insult is intended and I hope you can accept my input for what it is. :)



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Re: What does XOOPS need? - A newbies perspective
  • 2005/5/27 20:17

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For my own part, I'm well aware of the hard work, long hours and determination needed to stay focussed and dedicated to a project such as this. If I or many others haven't run around the forums high fiving the develeopers at every oportunity, it doesn't mean that we are not appreciative. Things would get pretty sickening around here if we did, lol.

Now as a newbie of a little over two weeks and therefore with no axe to grind with anyone, please allow me to express my impression of the program, this site and how the whole project seems to be rolling along....

The program itself is great. It's a little buggy in places and a little clumsy to use at times but as a project "in progress", this is only to be expected. In my humble opinion, it has the potential to be the best app of it's kind.

Though I realise that XOOPS is a free app, developed and run by volunteers, where the whole set up lets itself down badly is in it's "after sales" service. When u consider that the main reason alot of ppl would want to use an app such as this, is because we are not experts in things such as web building and programming so therefore want something such as XOOPS to make our lives easier, it should be obviousa that such ppl will need a fare bit of support and advice in it's use. Now baring this in mind, I ask you all to make a quick survey of the help forums and see just how many newbie questions go un-answered or just told to "go read the faq, read the faq, read the faq"

Someone in an earlier post quite rightly suggests that some of us put our money where our mouthes are and help out instead of just whining. That is all well and good and I for one am more than willing to help where I can but WE need to learn the ropes first ourselves and we can't do that when our questions and requests for help are ignored.

First impressions are very important but my own newbie experience with the help forums is not a happy one. If u scout around the boards you will see quite a number of occasions where a newbie has repeatedly asked for help and in the end has said "g'bye" due to frustration, which is a shame because this app has great potential.

I know after this post, I'm prolly going to get flamed to death but as a person on the outside looking in, I'm going to make a small suggestion here and you can do with it as you wish....

What this place desperately needs are ppl that are experienced with the prog that can spare time to REGULARLY patrol these boards with the mission of helping the many ppl that send up distress flares. This would kill two birds with one stone. It would keep the newbies from throwing in the towel prematurely and at the same time release the ppl actively working on the development to do their thing.

Please don't mistake this as a rant, a whine or a know-it-all just bustin ppl's chops for the sake of it. I'm just trying to answer the question that was asked in the original post from a newbie's perspective. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go put on my kevlar helmet and wait for the incoming.




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Page looping on signup page.
  • 2005/5/27 14:22

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I have a prob where some ppl are able to set up a new account to join my site but some ppl can't. in these instances, when they've added their user name they click on submit, it loops them back to the same page.

Any ideas?

Tks in advance.



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Updating a module.
  • 2005/5/24 23:03

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I'm currently using NewBB but I see that NewBB2 has just been released. My question is how do I update to the latest version without losing my present set up? can i update and still keep the current forums, categories and posts in tact?

Tks in advance.



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Re: How long do the "New Post" tags last in Newbb?
  • 2005/5/21 23:12

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Certainly... My site is at The Command Post and TYVM



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Re: How long do the "New Post" tags last in Newbb?
  • 2005/5/21 18:05

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ok, well that's how i had it set b4 but it didn't make any difference. Guess i'll just have to live with it, lol.




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