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hey, thanx for the reply!
i finally figured it out, the hard way i think because it says nothing anywhere in any of the forums, about what i had to do.
I had to install the modules of course, set the permissions for each user group in the group settings, and then with ftp, go back and change the (hasMain) in the xoops_version.php so they wouldnt show up in the main menu. then i had to update each module, then create my own links with multimenu. was a pain in the ass lol but it works now, and no other way i tried would work.
thanx