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I have an absolute favorite theme and I have not found any other that I would wnat to even consider using. I know that this works with ver. 13. So, I have two options:

A. Get a bit more updated modules, but the theme may not work. Result, I cannot use it all all.
B. Use the ver. 13 modules that work, but are not totally updated. I can use the favorite theme perfectly.

However, I might give it a shot and hope that the theme still works with the newer modules, but if it doesn't, I will clearly choose the old modules and have the theme work, because I am happy with how everything works on my current websites running ver. 13.

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I don't know if you read the whole tread, but if you had done that, you would have seen that I have had websites running XOOPS for a while now. I have uploaded and installed a few modules and it has worked fine.

That was never the issue.

The issue was very specifically howcome James' pack didn't work if I uploaded the same files and structure as in his pack. I now know that there for a few modules are files that have to be added outside of the modules main folder structure (in the root for instance) but that is rare.

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I know. I have never asked about this. I said that the modules were not showing here so I could not get to install them from admin page.

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Yes, the fantastico from my host has always worked perfectly. I have installed xoops, smf, php and many many other CMS, forums etc. and it has worked perfectly every time.

So, I have been used to XOOPS just working brilliantly and easily. Actually one of the reasons why I use XOOPS was because of the userfriendlyness.

The new SMF is really brillliant in that respect. EVERYTHING can be updated, changed and installed from the admin page! If you for instance find a new theme you like - you can upload it and install it directly from any computer easily and simply. You don't have to uploud the files first in one program, and then open the admin page. You don't even have to bother with where the different files go, folder structure or anything. That really impressed me.

However SMF only does the forum part. For CMS - XOOPS (ver.13) is still my favorite. Too bad my host doesn't have fantastico on ver.13 still, but changed to ver. 14.

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Yes, I guess those are the things I will have to look at now when I am going to install module by module individually.

I thought, hoped and asked if James' pack would allow me to install for instance 10 modules in one go - but it seems there is no easy solution. I just have to manually upload and install the module one by one.

@Bender thank you for a clear answer. I wil uninstall the whole thing again then.

Could you please let me know if what I am planning to do now sounds logical:

1. Install XOOPS ver.14 via Fantastico.

2. GET all the files from webhost via Dreamweaver. So that my local PC file structure is the same as on the server.

3. Go into a current website of mine running Ver. 13 and look at what modules are there.

Find the same modules in the depository, and install each one on my local machine. Then one by one upload them to the server and test that they work before getting the next.

I don't have enough experience to know which modules works with my favorite theme and on ver. 14 - so I guess I have no other option than to go with what I know works.

Cheers,

Deram

@Harko. Thank you for trying. It is probably me that apparently is very bad at explaining myself.

I'll try again:

As I have said many times, I have already several websites running ..13 version of Xoops.

So - that means that I know some of the basic things of course.

I know that there has to be a basic folder structure. After all I am an experienced html coder and I have used Dreamweaver and flash for about 10 years.

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James has made a "xoops with basic set of modules" pack. I then took all the files and folders from his "modules" folder and copied them to my own installed ..14 version modules folder.

So if his XOOPS works mine should now be identical, right?

I then uploaded the whole thing (in the same folders etc. of course)

However, from the admin page I still only see the system module and cannot install any other module.

I hope I was able to explain myself better this time... :/

PS. when I used to update my database from newbb1.0 to CBB1.16, I always had to run some file to make it work. #OOPS# - It would be nice if someone would make a module pack and include a simple "read_me" file. ver...14 may be good for the people ALREADY using and experienced with Xoops, but the community is not really likely to get many new users the way this works. This is just my honest advice. I chose XOOPS after having tried installing several CMS' via Fantastico and trying to upgrade them, install modules etc.. In the end XOOPS was the best mix of user friendlyness, security and style that I wanted. But ver. 14 (while I'm sure experienced users can see the benefits) would not have made me choose Xoops. And that is a shame because XOOPS is good. It is just frustrating when techies forget that there are user at the other end of the chain.

Please don't take this as a personal critique. I know many people are doing a great job, and I really appreciate it. It is just frustrating that the CMS that I really liked, is "improved" for a small number of experienced users, while all future users will be in pain trying to figure out what goes on.

Anyway - any help with this will be deeply appreciated.

@David Yes, I know you are right. I don't want to seem impatient ( although I am.. )

@Biteronboard - you misunderstand me.

I have Dreamweaver and I have uploaded/downloaded/syncroniced files between my pc and my webhost many times. That is not the issue.

OK, I will try to state it as precisely as I can:

I know how to use Fantastico. I have Dreamweaver and know how to use it to up and download files.

I have already installed version ..14 via Fantastico on my host and then syncronized all the files down to my own pc.

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Problem: I have downloaded the module pack here. I have put all the files in the modules folder from that pack into my own modules-folder.

I have also uploaded all the new files in that folder to my webhost.

However, I still only have the systems module when I look at the site.

Is there anywhere I need to activate the modules or?

Please guys.

I have been in here to check for answers every half hour yesterday and today.

I have 4-6 days now where I have time to get the site up and running and do all these things. Normally under 1.13 with fantastico this would not be a problem.

I would install it using fantastico. Update the forum. Find a theme. Install it. Put the right blocks in place etc.

But what do I do now?

I am now taking all the content from your pack's "modules" folder, James - and putting it into the almost empty "modules" folder on my xoops.

I do not want to install the entire thing although I can see that your pack is actually XOOPS with modules.

I just need a module pack because my internet provider has fantastico and I will use as much automatic stuff as I can.

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I am now uploading all the content of "modules" folder to my host server.

After it finishes, do I have to activate it anywhere else but in the modules section on admin page?

Thank you James.

However I looked in the read_me file and usually it says what to do, but the one included only says which modules are included.

What do I do once I have downloaded the pack?

Can I just put the main folder in one place or will I have to spread it out etc.. (how I dont know).

I really think it is a huge step back that there are no modules included in ..14

I am using fantastico to install it and I have before installed ..13 and that was nice and easy to set up with all the basic things included.

Now I have to do all the stuff with the modules.. Finding them... downloading them.. hopefully they are compatible... putting them in the right spot on my pc... then activating them one by one... before I can do it all over again for the next and the next...

When I downloaded a better forum for ...13 I often had trouble because I forgot to activate and what not in the various places (both in admin menu and with the "update_newbb_to...cbb_or whatever its called".

But I made it work in the end. Now I have many more chances to make errors.

I you are not that experienced with this there are so much room for error in all of this.

If my provider still had the ...13 version I definitely would have chosen that.

These days the aim has steadily been for more and more userfriendlyness, and I see this as a huge step back in that sense.

Is there ANY chance that ...14 will ever be as userfriendly to set up as former versions without all the hassle of downloading all the modules one by one?

I am using NewBB 1.16.

Does that help?

Instead of the real names, I get "Recent Replied Topics _MI_NEWBB_BNAME0" in the blocks admin.

What could be the cause of this?

After downloading the newBB1.16, I replaced the newBB folder on my computer with this new one.

Then I deleted the newbb-folder on the remote server. Then I had dreamweaver upload the newbb-folder to the server.

and then update the forum in EI and then from the admin manu.
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Did that sound correct? I am worried if I should have just uploaded NewBB-files without deleting the old NewBB folder and files first?