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Don't worry. If yoiu recommend it, it is still my responsability, because you didn't force me to do anything.

I will try it.

For ver.13 or 14

Thanks.

Deram

Sorry, but I still cannot solve this.

I am using CBB 1.16 and the curent limit is 1.000 kb. I would like to change that to 5 mb. I looked in forum module preferences, but it wasn't there.

OK, I have now put up the forum, news and download modules and it IS really easy and there are not many chances to make errors. It does take time though.

Earlier I asked howcome James' pack doesn't work, because I assumed it would if I copied his "modules" folder to my modules folder.

So far only the CBB has required anything but that.

So it seems (so far) that had someone just told me "what you are doing is fine, but if you have CBB as one of the modules you need to copy his "frameworks" folder over to your own root folder".

So, now I am telling others that are not overly experienced at this.

You CAN take James' pack, just remember the "frameworks" folder. Easy peasy.

Thx mate. Great stuff!

I am looking for a way to set up an online survey (with about 30 questions and 300 respondents).

I am using XOOPS Ver 14. Does anyone know if there is a working Survey module out there?

I disagree.

There is a development that goes way back to the beginning of when the computer wa invented.

In the beginning only very few nerds had any chance of using it. They used machne code etc. Then over time it has become more and more simple to do more and more complex things.

For instance the leap from MS_DOS to more graphic operating systems and the windows tradition inspired by McIntosh OSs. That made people able to do more complex things.

The leap from hand coding to WYSIWYG is another of countless examples.

This happening all around us and saying that "this is so complex that only relatively few people have an interest in it (therefore it can be more complex and time consuming to learn)" that is exactly the same argument some people used about the computer in general. I remember the boss of IBM many many years ago said that the world demand for computers would never exceed 6.

People do want to make websites and have a webpresence. In 10 years, or even 5 years I believe that if we all come back to look at this tread, we will find that the world has moved (with or without Xoops) in such a way that interactive websites are much easier top set up than they are now, and the suggestions I made will surely be everyday and basic. SMF and other already today have these facilities, so I cannot really see how anyone can doubt that that is the direction we are all moving in.

Another aspect: How long do you suppose it took to make a simple webpage with a little text and 2-3 colors 20 or so years ago? It took quite a long time. Today there are so many WYSIWYGs that will allow you to make that in a matter of 1-2 minutes.

How long does it now take to get a functional XOOPS up and running with the 10 basic modules for someone that is new? I haven't tried it yet, but my best guess is several hours. I don't see how or why it is important to defend the right to have it take that long. I am convinced that in short time ( a few years) most if not all these CMSs will be far more userfriendly than now. They are already far more userfridly than they were a few years ago. XOOPS (at least ver.. 13) was very userfriednly, so I don't get the defensive attitude that "people are stupid if they want it faster, more automatic, or easier than it is now". That is the dirrection XOOPS is already going and hopfully will continue to go.

I know that people defend their powerbases. I have surely done this quite a few times myself. I was very good at hand coding HTML, so I didn't like WYSIWYGs and thought that there was nothing like real hand cosing because you have total control etc. etc. But eventhough I can still see the benefit of being able to handcode, it is of course a complete waste of time to do everything by hand when Dreamweaver and other programs do a great job.

@Damaster I didn't know that there were issues such at what you are hinting at, but I guess such isues are very likely to arise and I think they are also there for PHP nuke and all the paralel developments of that too.

However, SMF has come a long way since the last time I looked at them (about 6-12 months ago) so perhaps they are organizing themselves differently or? I hope XOOPS solves this because imo. XOOPS was the best and most userfriendly CMS at the time when I chose it (about 12-14 months ago).

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Are you saying that there is no room for "users"? Either you learn about how the graphics card work, whih type of ram is better and what the trade off is, or you cannot buy a PC at all.

I don't think it is that bad to reach a stuation where "users" also want to use the product, and not only experienced xoopsers?

PS. And I don't know why you want me to look at that link? It shows me to a page with some of the latest modules. I have never asked which are the latest modules. however, it is obviously handy to have if I want to give it a try to install some of these modules instead of the ones I know work with my theme (the ones from ver. 13). So thx anyway.

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I appreciate that. It is just that I am more of a user, than really interested in the mechanics. I have made websites, games etc. in Flash for instance where I did the things, but no matter what happened to the project itself - at least I learned along the way.

My goal now, is not really to learn as much as it is "to get this thing to work". Of course I will still learn, but my main concern right now is that it works. I don't need a lot of bells and whistles. I just need something that works to the standard of ver. 13.

So, if you are saying that if the theme (called "flash test" btw.) should work with 14 modules if coded properly, then I'll give these modules a go.

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This whole thing to me is like if we could no longer buy assembled PCs because "the market move so fast that the parts are outdated very fast". Now everyone would have to buy seperate graphics cards, coolers, ram etc. etc.

Yes, it is true - a better and more personalized pc can be made that way, but it is still not what the average pc user want. It is simply too much hazzle and only offer cost/benefit value to the people that can do this in a flash with a low error rate because of experience.

So - well personally, I really hope that XOOPS goes the other way - towards userfriendlyness instead of away from it. I understand that there has to be a balance, but not including any modules and thereby trying to force people to use newer modules I'm not sure that is the way. Then a better way would be to do like SMF. SMF have red writing that flashed in the admin section saying "outdated this and this, do you wish to update?". Then you press an "OK" button and everything uploads and updates. Bang your modules are up to date.

That would be a far far better way to go balancing both userfriendlyness and having updated versions out there.