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Re: [XoopsProject] proposal - XOOPS End Users Team

  • 2007/6/21 13:55

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BlueStocking wrote:
It was my hope when a problem was noted the designer or developer would go in and examine the problem - having full access - and post the remedy.


Again this is a great way to beta test themes and modules. I hope this site is successful.

I know at one time there was a XOOPS site that had a large number of modules loaded. It allowed end-users to go in see how modules are supposed to work, make some changes, then at the top of every hour the site would reset itself. Is this site still available?
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - community coordination - June 10th

  • 2007/6/21 4:37

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The seems to be a general agreement (or lack of disagreement) with my overview of the Community Coordination Team.

I would like to invite following people to join the Community Coordination Team:

JMorris
irmtfan
akitson
vaughan ( M0nty)

They are all current moderators in good standing.

The moderators tasks will not change, in fact some may be added. The only real change is the name from Moderators to Community Coordinators.

I understand there are moderators for specific forums, If they or anyone else would like to be included, please PM me or post a quick note here, otherwise we will assume you do not want to be included as a part of the Community Coordinators.

Of course, none of this takes effect until the proposed team is declared official, until that time the moderators should continue doing what they are doing, as moderator(s).

While I am not the 'team leader', someone should to get this team together. I understand there is a moderators' forum, that I am not privy to, and there might well be discussions about this team that I am totally unaware of. If someone wants to bring us up to date, great, otherwise I assume there is no other discussion taking place.

@Bluestockings
Bluestocking said:
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This new openess could catch on for some of the silent majority that has been reading these threads for their daily soap-opera fix. Thinking .. nothing is really going to change.


People really read this in place of soap-operas? and I thought I need a life...
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsProject] proposal - XOOPS End Users Team

  • 2007/6/21 4:32

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Quote:

BlueStocking wrote:
It was suggested on an eariler post that end-users could be used to evaluate a beta before going live. I have decided that there is nothing wrong with having a test area where products on the front page that have gone live can have some feedback and give relevant information concerning their product.

That could then be used to document the now live product.

BlueStocking


This a great idea, I am glad that you have implemented it.

I hope you have a place for feed back from the users what they thought of the software that you are testing. That kind of feedback would be invaluable to the developers.
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - community coordination - June 10th

  • 2007/6/20 14:32

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I was only trying to get a better understanding of the total function of this team, and how it interacts with the other teams.

The end-users / XOOPS customers need a channel to express their likes, dislikes, needs and wants. More often than not more than one person will express similar thoughts, in a different way. We have seen this right here in this very forum. Someone within XOOPS community needs to be listening and compile this information into a meaningful report to the various teams. The development teams must take the requests of the end-users very seriously. There should be some kind of response from the XOOPS Community to let them know that we have heard them, and are working toward a solution.

The Moderators keep the discussions somewhat friendly and on-topic. They also close inactive threads, remove spam messages, etc. It is so very important that the administrators respect the autonomy of the moderators. If a thread needs to be closed, or reopened, the administration should contact the moderators/Community Coordinators, the rest of the items discussed in the moderators' thread could be dealt with after the team is 'officially' formed.

all to often end-users make a request of something that has already been addressed. The Community Coordinators is to help the end-user find answers to their questions, or requests.

The focus of the Community Coordinators is the end-user. If we, as a community, do not listen to the end-user, and address their needs, The XOOPS project will fail. IMHO, The Community Coordination Team is the most important team. They are often the first and only contact end-users have with the XOOPS Community.
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - community coordination - June 10th

  • 2007/6/20 1:24

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I have had somewhat of a busy weekend. It is taking me some time to get caught up.

from what I gather, the Community Coordination team, would be a combination of Moderators, the proposed End-User team and Customer Service. I also gather that there would be some inter-team coordination.

Is this pretty close to what this team is all about?
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kc0maz
Re: New users cannot register??

  • 2007/6/15 18:31

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I just tried registering.

When I register athttp://www.yoursite.com I get the cannot register new user error

When I register athttp://sitename.com I do not have a problem.
Quote:

bender said:
Please check your mainfile.php

How did you setup your url?

As www.sitename... or just sitename...(which i´d guess).

Change it to www.sitename... and try again.



Check the mainfile.php somewhere around line 39

you might want to check some of your user settings, I get the rank as moderator



[size=x-small][moderator note: url changed on request of original poster since the problem is solved and the url should not remain public][/size]
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status

  • 2007/6/15 15:46

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Quote:

sailjapan wrote:
Are mods supposed to be wearing their mod-cap everytime they log in? Grief, how sad if that's the case. No chance to express an opinion, everyone watching their Ps & Qs when ever they're in a forum with you. Bit like being a copper, but at least coppers get to take their uniforms off at weekends...

Crip


I am going to take some issue with the last statement. A cop is a cop, 24/7/365. I just had a very lengthly discussion about this very topic with my sheriff, and his cyber-deputy. That means they always obey and enforce the laws. however, They do get time off to be a person.

When they are 'on-duty' they are investigating, actively looking for law breakers, and preforming other official duties. When they are 'off-duty' they doing normal things, like housework, fishing, watching a movie, etc. If they see a crime happening they are required to take some action. I live in a small town, and everyone knows Mike, John, Mary and Megan as the cops. We also know how to respect their 'off-duty' time.

How this applies to the moderators is very simple. If while trolling the forums a moderators spots some spam, or other infraction, they take action to remove it. When they are on-duty, they are looking for threads that need to be closed or actively responding to requests from the users. As I understand from this thread, the current moderators are already doing this.

Having a moderator and non-moderator log-in may help. I disagree with having usernames like Moderator 1, etc. Then the question becomes who was moderator 1 when this action was done? I wouldn't be opposed to have each moderator be assigned a moderator username, so long as it is transparent, and every one know that Moderator 1 is really davidl2 or whoever. (I know that davidl2 is no longer a moderator, I just used his name as an example.) Having the moderator sign or color or what ever, tells those on-line that if you have a problem you can come to me.

I hope all of this make some sense.
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status

  • 2007/6/15 12:56

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Quote:

Quote:
How about a compromise? We could probably change the "Who is online" box to either add a [Mod] tag or show the mods in color or both. So you can still quickly find one if online but at the same time we are not hiding.

Think that would be acceptable?


Can we please have some feedback on this idea?


+1

I like this idea on a couple of different ways.

First we know at a glance that a moderator is online.
Second, it prevents moderators from hiding behind user names. If there is some abuse happening It is always good to name the abuser.
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsProject] proposal - XOOPS End Users Team

  • 2007/6/15 2:06

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I found the team names and their functions all a bit confusing. It almost like creating teams for the sake of creating teams. Before a team can be formed, there has to be a need for a function for that team to fulfill.

Often times the need for a temporary team may arise, to work on a specific project. For these short term projects it would be nice to have a pool of people to draw from, some time it is best to have people who are not already have other duties. However this is a discussion for another thread.

The end-user team / person sounds like a great idea. Some team/person to compile all the comments, complaints of the web masters, end-users, and ideas of those passing through and make reasonable recommendations to the various development teams.
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kc0maz
Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status

  • 2007/6/14 20:43

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Quote:

sailjapan wrote:

but would like to ask if more than one moderator (or more than one rep from each team for that matter) need to be on the co-ordination team.


I had to go back and double check. Jenclas is the only moderator who is also listed in the Coordination team. I personally would like to see one more or at least an alternate point of contact.

I do have a concern about having one person being on multiple teams. There is some wonderful talent here. While it is nice that they have stepped and volunteered, I don't want to stretch them so thin that they become ineffective.

Maybe I am looking for a liaison between the coordination team the moderators.
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