WELL crap, it seems now you can't see it still with all the other themes other than the default I set,which is 1000ac grey

HEY GUYS IT WORKED!!! Bless you bless you. BIG SMOOCH!!! I took the easy way out.

So do you think if i just uninstall the old news module, this new one would show up like it should be? I ask because I'm done transferring all the news items to the new.

it's NO

Thanks John. And I'd gladly give you admin access to look around if you like.

Before I go down your checklist I noticed this just now. When I go into the news setting and do

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News Display Layout

Classic shows all news ordered by date of publish. News by topic will group the news by topic with the latest story in full and the others with just the title
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I changed that to By Topic and it shows up!!! However I don't want that format, I need classic. When i set it to classic nothing appears.

Okay your questions.

1.I have no center blocks other than Big Story, I turned that off and nothing

2. Not sure what you mean here. But for each news item I create, at the bottom "approve" is checked. I leave that the way it is. Is that okay?

3. I see everything, the scoop, and the 'read more" to see the extended.

I have about five topics already and all the same.

Thanks anyway for all the help. Maybe someday the creator of altern8news will create a newer version. Or not.

i did that debug thing, does this look like what you needed

All errors (0) queries (45) blocks (0) extra (1) timers (3) Errors
Queries
SET NAMES 'utf8'
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE (conf_modid = '0' AND conf_catid = '1') ORDER BY conf_order ASC
SELECT sess_data, sess_ip FROM x811_session WHERE sess_id = 'b3a6a96541c7de53c8b48cca2d3a577c'
SELECT * FROM x811_users WHERE uid = '2'
SELECT * FROM x811_modules WHERE dirname = 'system'
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=1
SELECT * FROM x811_smiles
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=2
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=30
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'adminmail', conf_title = '_MD_AM_ADMINML', conf_value = 'another.angel@gmail.com', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_ADMINMLDSC', conf_formtype = 'textbox', conf_valuetype = 'text', conf_order = 3 WHERE conf_id = 30
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=3
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=4
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=5
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=6
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=94
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=7
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=57
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=72
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'theme_set_allowed', conf_title = '_MD_AM_THEMEOK', conf_value = 'a:9:{i:0;s:11:\"1000ac_grey\";i:1;s:2:\"P7\";i:2;s:8:\"bm-glass\";i:3;s:9:\"cleanblue\";i:4;s:7:\"default\";i:5;s:11:\"fisubsilver\";i:6;s:10:\"lucastds02\";i:7;s:11:\"lucastds02c\";i:8;s:10:\"microWhite\";}', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_THEMEOKDSC', conf_formtype = 'theme_multi', conf_valuetype = 'array', conf_order = 13 WHERE conf_id = 72
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=63
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=8
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=9
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=10
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=53
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=16
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=11
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=13
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'debug_mode', conf_title = '_MD_AM_DEBUGMODE', conf_value = '0', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_DEBUGMODEDSC', conf_formtype = 'select', conf_valuetype = 'int', conf_order = 24 WHERE conf_id = 13
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=12
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=58
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=59
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'closesite_okgrp', conf_title = '_MD_AM_CLOSESITEOK', conf_value = 'a:1:{i:0;s:1:\"1\";}', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_CLOSESITEOKDSC', conf_formtype = 'group_multi', conf_valuetype = 'array', conf_order = 27 WHERE conf_id = 59
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=60
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=14
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=15
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=61
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=71
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=32
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=33
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=47
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=37
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'bad_ips', conf_title = '_MD_AM_BADIPS', conf_value = 'a:1:{i:0;s:9:\"127.0.0.1\";}', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_BADIPSDSC', conf_formtype = 'textarea', conf_valuetype = 'array', conf_order = 42 WHERE conf_id = 37
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE conf_id=62
UPDATE x811_config SET conf_modid = 0, conf_catid = 1, conf_name = 'module_cache', conf_title = '_MD_AM_MODCACHE', conf_value = 'a:9:{i:2;s:1:\"0\";i:5;s:1:\"0\";i:7;s:1:\"0\";i:8;s:1:\"0\";i:3;s:1:\"0\";i:6;s:1:\"0\";i:9;s:1:\"0\";i:11;s:1:\"0\";i:16;s:1:\"0\";}', conf_desc = '_MD_AM_MODCACHEDSC', conf_formtype = 'module_cache', conf_valuetype = 'array', conf_order = 50 WHERE conf_id = 62
SELECT * FROM x811_config WHERE (conf_modid = '0' AND conf_catid = '3') ORDER BY conf_order ASC

I have that set to yes

XOOPS Version: XOOPS 2.3.0
PHP Version: 5.2.6

Not sure how to enable debug but will try that. I'm sorry for so much trouble. Maybe i should just keep using that old Altern8news and just not be able to edit items unless I copy and paste into a seperate editor then back again. Double work but I'm about out of luck here.

Yes to publish in home.
The mod is very similar to the old one i am using, altern8news, so I think I'm doing what's right. I'm gonna uninstall it and reinstall. Maybe something happened during the download via ftp?

or i can try this other news module?