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Re: desertmountains.com - comments appreciated

2004/7/31 16:20
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

It looks pretty good. Although I noticed one issue. The DTD is XHTML transitional however the page does not validate. If you want to use some of the older HTML 4 or 3.2 attributes you might want to change the DTD to one of those older standards. Otherwise you may want to go through and clean up the errors listed here: W3C Validator output

The validator output looks worse than it really is. Usually fixing the first few errors makes a lot of the later errors disappear to.

The benefit of having valid output is consistent rendering (you avoid the dreaded Quirks mode rendering in IE an Moz - try googling on "browser quirks mode" to see what I mean).

Good Luck!

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All CSS Theme - Feedback wanted

2004/7/31 16:02
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

If you could take a look at my site: WebGuys.com I would appreciate some feedback. I am mainly wanting to see if any browsers have problems with the layout. If you reply with a new bug please mention what OS and browser (including version number) you are using.

The design is tableless XHTML and CSS. Some modules and the built-in XOOPS forms retain table layouts though. And it requires a bunch of modified templates. Once I am happy with the functionality of the theme I will release it so others can use it to play with pure XHTML/CSS based layouts.

Thanks!

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Re: XOOPS in Frames

2004/7/31 15:34
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

If bandwidth savings is your goal then frames has very little advantage for you. Since banner images would be locally cached anyway the only thing you save would be your nav-bar markup. You would get much more bandwidth savings from an all CSS layout (that caches all layout elements locally) than from a frames based approach which would force you to remove any dynamic elements from the frame you want to stay cached.

Either way, good luck with your layout.

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Re: XOOPS in Frames

2004/7/30 20:51
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

My question is why do you need frames. You can achieve similar effects using CSS or Javascript. To me CSS would be the best solution. Check this article out: Ghost in the Box. It shows a frames styled layout that uses only CSS. This gets rid of all the problems with frames and avoids all the PHP and theme hacking to get frames working.

I think that frames cause too many problems for users to make them worthwhile except in very limited situations.

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Re: Interesting : another CMS benchmark with xoops

2004/7/30 20:30
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

It is an interesting benchmark although it is not very rigorous. The author himself says that:

"I want to stress again that this is how they perform on my system under the conditions I generated. These numbers do not mean anything outside of this benchmark"

My main issue with the benchmark is that nowhere does he mention how each page on each server was constructed. Unless he used pages that were designed to be as similar as possible (same number of graphic elements, same number of dynamically included elements, etc.) the test would not really compare apples to apples. If he used the default themes for each server (which seems likely to me) that introduces a lot of random variables into his tests.

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Re: Xoops nearly 100% valid XHTML

2004/7/28 20:22
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

Your front page validates when I check it - its a full 100% valid as far as I am concerned. :)

I also set up my XOOPS site (Webguys.com) to be XHTML. It validates on the front page and most of the main pages but I found some issues with certain modules and core sections. But I believe the developers have said that future versions of XOOPS will imporve compatibility with XHTML.

Also if you will notice, my site layout is entirely CSS based. No tables (except where the XOOPS forms module is used).

I may release my theme later on but it requires major modifications to most module templates used. Since most modules are laid out with the default table based layout in mind.

Hopefully in the future XOOPS will have more (XHTML/CSS) web standards friendliness out of the box (changing all those module templates is a pain).

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Re: Theme width problem

2004/7/19 18:20
synistar
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Since: 2004/7/19

This is a typical problem. I converted my site to all CSS and it has a similar issue with some of the forms. Unfortunately the form system used in XOOPS does not lend itself to templating well (at least from what I could tell reading the source). I saw that they will be changing it in the future though.

One thing you can try is shrinking the font like some others have said. Another (ugly option) is to use the CSS overflow property to force a scroll bar. Here is some sample code to play with:

<form action="#">
<div style="width: 10em; border: 2px solid #ccc; overflow: scroll;" >
Use scroll bar to see entire option:
<select />
<option>123456789012345678901234567890</option>
</select>
</div>
</form>

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Re: desertmountains.com - comments appreciated

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