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Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

McDonald Published 06/26/2006 22:09 Home away from home Joined 08/15/2005 Comments 1072

Many, many thanks for this final release!

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Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

riosoft Published 06/26/2006 22:20 Not too shy to talk Joined 11/08/2003 Comments 191

Congratulations...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

web-M Published 06/26/2006 23:14 Just popping in Joined 01/02/2006 Comments 100

Great work !!!!!

It's already put on the Dutch supportsite (XOOPS.nl)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Stewdio Published 06/27/2006 1:22 Community Support Member Joined 05/07/2003 Comments 1560

Nicely done

XOOPS 2.0.14 FINAL need another RC ?

comflash2 Published 06/27/2006 1:42 Just popping in Joined 01/01/2005 Comments 51

I think (based on change log), we should have another RC before this FINAL version to make sure XOOPS FINAL version quality.

2.0.13.2 to 2.0.14 update

mariuss Published 06/27/2006 3:08 Just popping in Joined 09/06/2002 Comments 99

Is there a 2.0.13.2 to 2.0.14 update package?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

leostotch Published 06/27/2006 3:24 Just popping in Joined 04/01/2006 Comments 76

great. thx a lot

Quote:

there a 2.0.13.2 to 2.0.14 update package?

There's a red "read the release notes" in the news, and if you do, you'll find the answer to your question.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

domecc Published 06/27/2006 5:33 Updated 06/27/2006 5:34 Just popping in Joined 10/30/2005 Comments 71

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chinese version release notes:
https://xoops.org.cn/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=30417#forumpost30417

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

mesol Published 06/27/2006 6:02 Not too shy to talk Joined 04/19/2006 Comments 168

where can i find upgrade package from 2.0.13.2 to 2.0.14?

i already read the release note, i can't understand

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

rowdie Published 06/27/2006 6:08 Updated 06/27/2006 6:09 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

There is no upgrade package.

Quote:

Due to a switch to the Subversion version control system since the release of XOOPS 2.0.13.2, there will be no 2.0.14 incremental upgrade packages released, to ensure both fresh installs and upgraded systems contain the exact same set of files.

More details are in the release notes...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ianez Published 06/27/2006 9:29 Not too shy to talk Joined 01/26/2006 Comments 188

well guys thanks for the upgrade...
reading comments and release notes I can't understand the "status" of this version,
should we consider this as final? or as a Stable version or else?
This is important for communication on our support site.

Ian (Italian XOOPS support)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

hervet Published 06/27/2006 9:48 Friend of XOOPS Joined 11/04/2003 Comments 2267

ianez,

That's the definitive version yes.

bye,
Hervé

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

snow77 Published 06/27/2006 9:52 Just can't stay away Joined 07/23/2003 Comments 864

thanks for all the hard work put into this, it's transforming itself into something really great and what's still to come has me in expectation. $^o^$(/^.^)/ )^o^(

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

snow77 Published 06/27/2006 10:14 Just can't stay away Joined 07/23/2003 Comments 864

@davidl2, thank you, thanks to the guidance from leostotch we have a good learning path ahead and new projects to work on to make things better.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ianez Published 06/27/2006 10:28 Not too shy to talk Joined 01/26/2006 Comments 188

thanx for the clarification Hervé

Ian

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ncodes Published 06/27/2006 11:11 Updated 06/27/2006 16:05 Just popping in Joined 06/08/2006 Comments 37

GOOD job guys tnx to core team
i installed it, http://www.ncodes.com/nlinux/
http://www.ncodes.com/ngallery/

Error: Smarty error:

wired2 Published 06/27/2006 15:00 Just popping in Joined 11/12/2004 Comments 14

Error: Smarty error: [in db:extcal_event.html line 14]: syntax error: unrecognized tag: $event.cat.cat_color"> <{$event.cat.cat_desc (Smarty_Compiler.class.php, line 436) in file /class/smarty/Smarty.class.php line 1095

Anyone know what to do?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

jonsimmonds Published 06/27/2006 15:11 Just popping in Joined 01/14/2005 Comments 48

when using wflinks i still get
Quote:

This page cannot be displayed due to an internal error.

If you are the administrator of this site, please visit the XOOPS Troubleshooting Page for assistance.

I also had this on the RC1

Thanks for the new version though, the support for bottom blocks works very well for me

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Ace_Armstrong Published 06/27/2006 16:57 Quite a regular Joined 01/09/2003 Comments 226

right . . .no upgrade package from 2.0.13.2. So how DO you upgrade? Do I need to uninstall and do a completely clean reinstall? And if I do, will I have to essentially start over with my database information, or can I simply just upload it again?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

msdana Published 06/27/2006 16:59 Updated 06/27/2006 17:15 Just can't stay away Joined 12/11/2005 Comments 817

You can see how to install/upgrade at http://devteam.xoops.org/releases/xoops-2.0.14.html

EDIT: Just performed an upgrade from 2.0.13.2 AND an upgrade from 2.0.14 RC-1...FLAWLESS.

Worked perfectly. I followed the instructions

GREAT WORK!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ZPC Published 06/27/2006 17:35 Official Support Member Joined 01/16/2002 Comments 76

Excelent progres guys.
I just finished update and everything went smoothly.

Now I found something while doing MD5 check (I tweaked the utility to show me the sums when something is wrong):

 ./class/mail/xoopsmultimailer.php content invalid  
(xoops.md5=b7c27c5085d16e14265b96d33e9a6de9 ; myValue=def2d9befd173f0bf91ad5c8159fec59) 
./class/xml/rpc/xmlrpcparser.php content invalid  
(xoops.md5=065845bf8d0c0dae725585745dd50a85 ; myValue=091cbbbcad5ebf5464a03c5c222967bd) 
./kernel/privmessage.php content invalid  
(xoops.md5=86afd71e8786c9b00e1d4206dff38820 ; myValue=1ff46f567517d068f9bf6a3e34fa252b)

Anybody else has this experience...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

JamesSAEP Published 06/27/2006 19:46 Just can't stay away Joined 02/28/2005 Comments 732

Great, nice to see the project progressing.
I have upgraded a new site http://www.saeportal.com to 2.0.14 without any problems at all.
I did have to change the bizlook theme that is being used to support the new blocks. I made the theme available for download HERE.

Thanks for all your hard work, XOOPS.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ZPC Published 06/27/2006 21:15 Updated 06/27/2006 21:17 Official Support Member Joined 01/16/2002 Comments 76

While finishing article about upgrade to 2.0.14 in czech I found directory extra in /htdocs and inside that dir is login.php for ssl and x2t theme, which I am unable tu unpack (it is said that due to CRC error) - isn't this theme there a bit by mistake?

On the other hand, maybe I am wrong, but isn't XOOPS faster now? My pages load like lightning ...
Great job dev.team. Ryspekt!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

fbs777 Published 06/27/2006 21:45 Updated 06/27/2006 21:54 Just popping in Joined 01/09/2005 Comments 48

What about the patch:
Quote:

The 2006/05/23 security patch has been released to fix the security issue disclosed as Secunia Advisory 20176.

The patch is in the final version?

EDIT: Ok, in the text area about updates is telling its there already patched...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Bender Published 06/27/2006 21:50 Home away from home Joined 03/10/2003 Comments 1899

Yes.

From the linked install/upgrade instructions:

Quote:

Upgrading from 2.0.14-RC1

If you had previously upgraded from a previous version to 2.0.14-RC1 without applying the 2006/05/23 security patch or were unable to access the authentication preferences panel, follow the above upgrade instructions to ensure the patch gets applied and the authentication related values are inserted into the database.

If you upgrade from a 2.0.14-RC1 installation with the patch installed, you just need to copy the content of the htdocs/ folder except mainfile.php over your existing installation.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

therock Published 06/28/2006 6:10 Just popping in Joined 02/02/2005 Comments 38

Hi.
Just updated my site and it works fine. One question, what language difference is it? I noticed that in the administrator section there is one section that are missing in the Swedish version.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

mijuv2 Published 06/28/2006 9:15 Just popping in Joined 06/21/2006 Comments 65

upgrade went as sweet as a nut with no problems except a niggly little problem with 2 custom blocks

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Ace_Armstrong Published 06/28/2006 9:56 Quite a regular Joined 01/09/2003 Comments 226

Quote:

You can see how to install/upgrade at http://devteam.xoops.org/releases/xoops-2.0.14.html

Actually, as far as I can tell, you can't see how to upgrade from 2.0.13.2 there. All it says about upgrading from 2.0.13.2 is this:

Quote:

Due to a switch to the Subversion version control system since the release of XOOPS 2.0.13.2, there will be no 2.0.14 incremental upgrade packages released, to ensure both fresh installs and upgraded systems contain the exact same set of file. We apologize for this inconvenience. You may want to use the newly provided checksum verification script to ensure there was no problem during the files upload (see instructions below).

Where in there, exactly, does it tell you whether you update it as if it were a 2.0.14 RC1 upgrade, uninstall and reinstall, or anything else? I'm having some problems with my site that I am hoping this upgrade will fix, but I don't want to do it if it's going to mean I lose everything and have to start over.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

phppp Published 06/28/2006 10:04 XOOPS Contributor Joined 01/25/2004 Comments 2857

Quote:

Upgrading from any XOOPS version between 2.0.10 and 2.0.13.2

1. Copy the content of the htdocs/ folder except mainfile.php over your existing installation.
2. Delete the following folders and files:
* class/smarty/core
* class/smarty/plugins/resource.db.php
3. Empty the templates_c folder (except index.html)
4. Upload the upgrade folder to your site
5. Ensure the server can write to mainfile.php
6. Login using an administrator account
7. Access /upgrade/ using your browser, and follow the instructions
8. Write-protect mainfile.php again
9. Remove the upgrade folder after use

Don't you see this?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Ace_Armstrong Published 06/28/2006 10:08 Quite a regular Joined 01/09/2003 Comments 226

Yes..that's for upgrading BETWEEN 2.0.10 and 2.0.13.2 . . . in other words, anything above 2.0.10 and below 2.0.13.2.

Was this merely bad wording, and it was supposed to say "2.0.10 through 2.0.13.2"?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ZPC Published 06/28/2006 10:23 Updated 06/28/2006 10:35 Official Support Member Joined 01/16/2002 Comments 76

Therock,Davidl2 - actually the number of definitions is quite higher.

These are changed:
Quote:

- Several constants changed in modules/system/admin/preferences (_MD_AM_DEBUGMODE1,_MD_AM_DEBUGMODE2,_MD_AM_THEMEFILE,_MD_AM_THEMEFILEDSC)

And these are new:
Quote:

- Added 3 new constants to the modules/system/admin/blocksadmin (_AM_CBBOTTOM, _AM_CBBOTTOMLEFT, _AM_CBBOTTOMRIGHT)
- Added one constant to language/english/comment.php (_CM_RE)
- And about 40 new constants added to modules/system/admin/preferences.php
(starting on line 183 with)
// XOOPS Authentication constants
...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

phppp Published 06/28/2006 11:32 XOOPS Contributor Joined 01/25/2004 Comments 2857

Thanks for explicitly pointing out the precise difference between "BETWEEN" and "THROUGH"

it was supposed to say "2.0.10 through 2.0.13.2"

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

m0nty Published 06/28/2006 11:55 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

lol some people are really nitpicky..

between and through.. lol means the same thing to me in that context..

if i booked a flight from heathrow going to say australia which had 2 stops inbetween say amsterdam & singapore.. the ticket says between heathrow & australia.. i would not be thinking oh, it says between those 2 countries and then travel to amsterdam just to get on the plane because heathrow is not the inbetween.. lol it's the starting point..

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

malexandria Published 06/28/2006 12:39 Updated 06/28/2006 12:41 Quite a regular Joined 12/23/2001 Comments 281

Quote:

Due to a switch to the Subversion version control system since the release of XOOPS 2.0.13.2, there will be no 2.0.14 incremental upgrade packages released, to ensure both fresh installs and upgraded systems contain the exact same set of files

COME ON!!! What are you guys doing? How can you release a major update, but not include an easy upgrade path????!!!! You are screwing over all the people who are still on the 2.013 installation, that by the way, the dev team have been pushing over the last 6 or 7 months. And yes, you do include upgrade instructions, but the way you have it, it's asking for trouble and people messing up their websites.

What is going on with the Dev of this application?

As one of the original team members, I'm very, very disappointed with where this project is going, the lack of communication and the current dev team. Every since the 2.2 debacle, It seems like you all no longer have ANY idea what you are doing.

I'm complaining because I love XOOPS and I just hate to see this continuing downslide and horrible decision making.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Lance_ Published 06/28/2006 12:54 Home away from home Joined 01/12/2004 Comments 983

LOL, what is it with the upgrade thing.

I've always upgraded from the full package myself. Always uploading all files. What's the problem there?

Why trouble the Devs for upgrade packages, it's not like the thing is 5 Gig large.

Geewizz the Drama about it!!!!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Bender Published 06/28/2006 13:07 Home away from home Joined 03/10/2003 Comments 1899

Well in the past there was the discussion about updating by all the little steps with all those upgrade packages.

Now this has been changed and the complaints go the other way round. You just can´t make it right for everyone.

If you think the instructions should be reworked then please make a contribution and suggest better ones. Get active ... (beyond talking).

Also please keep in mind that many people are not native english speakers. So don´t go nitpicky on the wording but instead make suggestions to change it if required.

Thanks.

Technical suggestions about the upgrade procedure by the way can also be placed on the sourceforge site XOOPS forums/trackers. (Sorry no link since sf.net is currently down for maintenance)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

m0nty Published 06/28/2006 13:11 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

i agree with lance_, i always upgrade using the full package.

in this case u have no choice, but what's the big deal about doing it this way? ok it might take a few extra minutes to upload the files.. but then you are actually better then because you know that all those files are from the same batch. u know u haven't got a stray 2.0.10 file somewhere or wherever..

if people have hacked their site, then they don't have to worry about it breaking because there's no stray hacked code that could cause a problem without them realising it. ok they have to then re apply all the hacks, but then they would have to anyway, so no loss there either.

the upgrade instructions are perfectly clear if you can actually read.. (if you can't read, then i guess you got more problems than just xoops)

it took me 5 mins to update my site, following the instructions.. in fact it was childsplay to do it.

and as for messing up someones website, then well if that happens, then they haven't heeded to all the warnings and simple rules of computer life!! and that simple rule is "MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE UPGRADING OR MODIFYING YOUR SITE" and that rule should apply whether you're upgrading or just editing/hacking code.

if you haven't got a backup, then more fool you if something does go terribly wrong!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

fbs777 Published 06/28/2006 13:53 Just popping in Joined 01/09/2005 Comments 48

Im going to translate the new constants, but the text about this in the change log is not clear, there is one file and 2 folders:
Quote:

Changes for translators:
- Added 3 new constants to the system/admin/blocksadmin (_AM_CBBOTTOM, _AM_CBBOTTOMLEFT, _AM_CBBOTTOMRIGHT)
- Several constants changed in system/admin/preferences (_MD_AM_DEBUGMODE1,_MD_AM_DEBUGMODE2,_MD_AM_THEMEFILE,_MD_AM_THEMEFILEDSC)
- Added one constant to language/english/comment.php (_CM_RE)

Instead the 2 folders, which files must be changed?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

irmtfan Published 06/28/2006 15:06 Module Developer Joined 12/07/2003 Comments 3419

thanks for the release im in the way of testing
@malexandria:
upgrade is mainly means to me changes in Database not in files.
there is no problem if you upload 10 files ( in upgrade package) or 100 files( in full). its realy more safe using full package.
also maybe you complain about too many files that must be uploaded?
personally i replace my hack files and mainfile.php in the original package and then tar.gz it and upload just that ONE zip file in my host root. then extract it in 2 seconds...
this way is more safe again to avoid file corrupts etc.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ZPC Published 06/28/2006 15:08 Updated 06/28/2006 15:09 Official Support Member Joined 01/16/2002 Comments 76

@fbs777:
OK, again and more precisely

- Several constants changed and 40 new added to
/modules/system/language/english/admin/preferences.php
- Added 3 new constants to
/modules/system/language/english/admin/blocksadmin.php
- Added one constant to
/language/english/comment.php

Is it clear enough now?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

malexandria Published 06/28/2006 15:22 Quite a regular Joined 12/23/2001 Comments 281

the problem is, I read the steps to upgrade, and they strike me as being a little "complex" in that it seems like it's asking problems. Instead of releasing an upgrade package, where the only thing you need to do is overwrite some files and run an upgrade script and everything works.

My complaint is that simple things like upgrading are becoming overly "complex," and adding too many steps to the process invites trouble. I just got XOOPS working properly again after two major failures this year, there's no way I'm going to upgrade to this package when it requires so many "steps," to do so.

Why am I being made out to be the bad guy because I want things to be kept simple, logical and straight forwared. Unzip an upgrade file, copy everything over. See, what's wrong with that? Instead we get, replace file 1 in folder a, delete file b out of folder 5, etc., it's ridiculous. And expect more communication between the dev team and the community? You do notice more and more people leaving Xoops? This is the reason why.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

irmtfan Published 06/28/2006 15:29 Module Developer Joined 12/07/2003 Comments 3419

i dont see any replace files in instruction like you wrote.
it just need to delete some folders and files
also it must patch a read only file (mainfile.php)
except of these its as simple as you said: "overwrite some files and run an upgrade script "

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

m0nty Published 06/28/2006 16:09 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

actually Mal, whichever way you look at it, you would still need to do the the following even if it was just the updated files not the full package..

Delete the following folders and files:

class/smarty/core
class/smarty/plugins/resource.db.php
Empty the templates_c folder (except index.html)
Upload the upgrade folder to your site
Ensure the server can write to mainfile.php
Login using an administrator account
Access /upgrade/ using your browser, and follow the instructions
Write-protect mainfile.php again

there's no way around it really.. it needs to be done because the smarty templating core has been updated to the latest version of smarty, and smarty changed the folder structure & plugins handling (i think) something along those lines anyway. the point is that XOOPS has been running on an outdated smarty system for quite a few versions.. this time smarty is updated to the latest version, so in essence you have not only updated xoops, but updated smarty aswell. this required a little bit more steps ie.. the deletion of a couple of files/folders.

and there was a need for an updated smarty due to some modules requiring it.. etc..

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

fbs777 Published 06/28/2006 16:42 Updated 06/28/2006 16:44 Just popping in Joined 01/09/2005 Comments 48

Quote:

ZPC:
@fbs777:
OK, again and more precisely

- Several constants changed and 40 new added to
/modules/system/language/english/admin/preferences.php
- Added 3 new constants to
/modules/system/language/english/admin/blocksadmin.php
- Added one constant to
/language/english/comment.php

Is it clear enough now?

Yes, thanks for the explanation

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

skalpa Published 06/28/2006 16:57 Updated 06/28/2006 17:00 Quite a regular Joined 04/16/2003 Comments 300

1) Every single file changed. Read this and also this, and you'll unserstand why it's the case. That's a one-time only inconvenience but we had to do it because it eases the development (which means we can work better and faster).
2) Even if that hadn't been the case, almost all files have been modified at some point. This is due to a serious misuse of a PHP functionality caused "references" in the original code, that was generating hundreds of error messages with recent PHP versions. Actually, fixing this not only removed the error messages it also made XOOPS globally faster as some people reported.
3) Some folders have to be deleted due to an upgrade of the included Smarty engine. If you don't like their decision to rename the Smarty core folder to internals, complain to them.
4) If you're afraid of messing up your site during the upload, there's a files integrity checker now.
5) There are even more restructuring operations planned. This is actually due to the fact we know where we're going and are ambitious, while the original team 3 years ago didn't anticipate this program future on the long-term. This means you'll have to delete more obsolete files because better components have arrived.

So, do we have to do all those changes ? Of course not... most people wouldn't be able to realize we're doing things wrongly, adding more code and mess to the actual one. Most people don't even do benchmarks and wouldn't be able to see we're not making XOOPS really better but just bigger and more fat.
Is that horrible decision making ? Maybe...

skalpa.>

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Calipsy Published 06/28/2006 17:27 Just popping in Joined 04/30/2003 Comments 87

I just upgrade my website to 2.014 and I am getting the error:
Fatal error: Call to undefined method XoopsErrorHandler::getinstance() in /....../...../public_html/portal/include/common.php on line 39

What can I do to fix this? I cannot login.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

leostotch Published 06/28/2006 17:43 Just popping in Joined 04/01/2006 Comments 76

Quote:

Fatal error: Call to undefined method XoopsErrorHandler::getinstance() in /....../...../public_html/portal/include/common.php on line 39

There was a problem during the upload of include/common.php (apparently there is still the old one on your server).
There is a script to check if all files were uploaded correctly (see the release notes). Use it, and re-upload the files it shows you.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Dave_L Published 06/28/2006 20:13 Updated 06/29/2006 11:50 XOOPS is my life! Joined 11/07/2003 Comments 2277

These files differ between the .zip and .tar.gz distributions:

class/mail/xoopsmultimailer.php
class/xml/rpc/xmlrpcparser.php
kernel/privmessage.php

The differences are only in comments (CVS/SVN generated timestamps?), but that's enough for xoops_md5.php to report "content invalid" for the .tar.gz ones.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

maxpt Published 06/28/2006 21:42 Updated 06/28/2006 23:06 Not too shy to talk Joined 09/04/2005 Comments 109

and now a downgrade of 2.2.4 to this version, are planned?

It's time to give more attention to 2.2.X users.. I disponibilize a way to change the buggy/slow version, to the "enterprise" version...

I test with the old script to downgrade.php, before I disable all modules, and I execute the old downgrade to 2.0.13.2 and i have got lots of bugs, that i can't resolve...

Can you please give a little atention to 2.2.4 users i give us a change to have the new version(2.0.14)?

For XOOPS expand in only one track.
And not divided(this is the correct word) in two.(this is very bad to xoops)

------
News Ideas:

1) I think that we need more information from the xoops, when the XOOPS don't execute, when have bug's, etc..

2) And I think that we need a way to upgrade in ONE CLICK, like SMF(Simple Machines) have, for example
Send the the zip file, in admin (web interface) and the XOOPS auto-upgrade, or to (the XOOPS auto-download and auto-install the new XOOPS version)

3) I need more core information in admin panel, like in SMF, The information of the version of XOOPS installed, the information of the most update. And not the most recent rss news of XOOPS site.

This is very usefull.

4) (?) XOOPS need to be more restrictive of the modules to ensure more Quality of the modules.

Or to the modules use more function of XOOPS core, to we have more feedback of modules errors, and not diferents erros reports for the same errors.

like can't connect to db.

5) why the custom blocks are not alltime cache as html, and only updated(and automatic) when we edit the custom block?

Thanks..

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

skalpa Published 06/28/2006 22:10 Quite a regular Joined 04/16/2003 Comments 300

@max: From now on all next releases will contain an upgrade script for both 2.0 and 2.2 users.
We know how the situation can be and are trying to make the best choices to ensure it ends as soon as possible (next weeks dev will be focused on that).

About your ideas:
1) We are the ones who need to know that Our goal is to try to make some releases without bugs at all, so the more you report this and use the beta/RCs, the more we can fix bugs.
2) I agree, but this has to be done from scratch, and not everybody would be able to use it (most servers are not able to write to all folders). So even if it's something we'd like to do/see contributed, it's not considered of the highest priority for us.
3) This will be done

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

maxpt Published 06/28/2006 22:16 Not too shy to talk Joined 09/04/2005 Comments 109

Quote:

Poster: skalpa Posted: 2006/6/28 23:10:17

@max: From now on all next releases will contain an upgrade script for both 2.0 and 2.2 users.
We know how the situation can be and are trying to make the best choices to ensure it ends as soon as possible (next weeks dev will be focused on that).

Thanks to refere this important mark, and sorry to be anoing.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

m0nty Published 06/28/2006 22:22 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

2.2.4 users wait for 2.4.. 2.0 and 2.2 are different. i don't know tho, maybe a 2.2.4 upgrade will be forthcoming in future.. but anyway this thread is about 2.0.14 and not 2.2.4

you should post your issues with the downgrade script in the forum or in the downgrade scripts comments.. please not in this comments..

this was always gonna happen when 2.0.13.2 users got an update.. even tho those using 2.2.x version were told hundreds of times to use 2.0.x

1. what information? lol check the bug tracker for bugs. sorry i don't understand what you're getting at with this.

2. i think upgrading is fine as it is. XOOPS is a cms, smf is just a forum.. they're different, so you have to give up 10 mins or 20 mins here & there to upgrade.. big deal.. having things done automatically for you is being lazy and takes the control away from the user and is not without many problems of it's own.
i prefer totally to be in control of updating my site manually, you don't learn anything when it's all done for you.

3. fair enough.. the version is in the footer in the admin section.. if i want to know the latest update, i come here.. i don't need or care to know from lookin in my admin panel but i admit some will find that useful.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

maxpt Published 06/28/2006 23:05 Updated 06/29/2006 15:29 Not too shy to talk Joined 09/04/2005 Comments 109

lol, i don't know why you are soo negative, even when my post are allready answer?

Quote:

Poster: m0nty Posted: 2006/6/28 23:22:52

even tho those using 2.2.x version were told hundreds of times to use 2.0.x

wrong, i allready have XOOPS sice 2.1.X. I have to update to 2.2.X.
Quote:

Poster: m0nty Posted: 2006/6/28 23:22:52

2.2.4 users wait for 2.4..

wrong, 2.2.4 users wait for 2.3, or a downgrade for 2.0.x.
Quote:

Poster: m0nty Posted: 2006/6/28 23:22:52

2.0 and 2.2 are different.

wrong, 2.0.14 and 2.2 are almost the same db, so it's quite easy to make a script to downgrade.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

FORGE Published 06/28/2006 23:07 Just popping in Joined 10/12/2004 Comments 22

just upgraded from 2.0.13.2. works very fine! thanks a lot guys!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

damaster Published 06/29/2006 0:37 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

Communication issue

Quote:

(...)However they didn't discover anything, they just put another name on something else (the same applies to AJAX in fact: the emergence of these terms are just the symptoms of a society that has become so stupid and uncreative that it tries to disguize recycling into progress).

I read this at devteam site and i still don't understand the "direction". As i read that devs follow minahito and gijoe works as their code is implemented on this release... i thought, they decide that it was a waste of time to recycling the old bugged thing?

So, why is there such patchwork? And why spend so many months (years soon), for example, renaming the thing to "xo"?
It was not a good idea to fix 2.0.13.2!? And naturally invest time and energy in a really new branch with a really new and clean code which recognizes old structures? Just like Minahito works, that devs already known by now.

Honestly, wouldn't it be preferable to have that new code into a new branch/project rather than to sew the new fabric with the old one? This is almost a bad thing in real life and it should may be true in virtual one as well...

It's a nice effort, hope not in vain and that one boost you in whatever the destination is!

Best Regards,

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

skalpa Published 06/29/2006 2:47 Quite a regular Joined 04/16/2003 Comments 300

Quote:

Honestly, wouldn't it be preferable to have that new code into a new branch/project rather than to sew the new fabric with the old one?

If we were alone, not caring about users interests then yes, but that's not the case.
If you look closely, you'll see that both Minahito and I are following parallel paths, although you can't really say one is following the other: if we seem to agree on the problems, we are not really choosing similar solutions.
Now, even if we both started to build a completely new architecure in XOOPS 2.3/xcube 2.1, this didn't prevent us from giving some enhancements to users in 14/14-jp/15-jp... I don't see where your problem is.
Also, to correct you: there is no code from Minahito in this release. The Protector uploader patch has been used coz gijoe's code is good, and there wasn't any point in re-using his ideas in some custom made code just to take the credits. Actually gijoe and I communicate together, we intend to share more and more ideas in the future to ensure both XOOPS and xcube users can benefit from our thinking, and have no problems with that at all, so I don't see where your narrow-minded comments fit.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

uncledos Published 06/29/2006 4:54 Just popping in Joined 06/29/2006 Comments 5

Thanks for 2.0.14! However, I have a problem after upgrade. The smileys key and "quote" do not work properly in CBB3.04.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

uncledos Published 06/29/2006 8:46 Just popping in Joined 06/29/2006 Comments 5

I fixed it. It is because the using theme does not work well with 2.0.14. Now I use the default theme. It is ok.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

damaster Published 06/29/2006 10:31 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

Communication, your words:

Quote:

a society that has become so stupid and uncreative that it tries to disguize recycling into progress

As narrow-minded as your are patchworking and recycling the thing

For example, how many users request ldap? Couldn't it be done with a module? It's not saying ldap isn't a "good feature".

Never mind, as there is enough problems, it's time to focus on solutions

Quote:

(...) we intend to share more and more ideas in the future to ensure both XOOPS and xcube users can benefit from our thinking (...)

That's a great news for XOOPS communities. Do you plan to joint the Ring Devs?

Salutations,

P.S. it's almost is communication issues

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

tempo Published 06/29/2006 17:27 Just popping in Joined 11/12/2003 Comments 96

hey my friends,

take a look on this https://xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=50999&forum=28

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

2headedpuppy Published 06/29/2006 18:18 Updated 06/29/2006 18:19 Just popping in Joined 09/18/2004 Comments 42

Thanks for the new release, seamless as always ... I appreciate your work a lot !!!

http://www.seetheglobe.com

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

MadFish Published 06/29/2006 18:58 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/27/2003 Comments 1056

@Skalpa and all others that contributed:

Thanks man for carrying XOOPS another step forward. XOOPS is fast becoming a fixture, at least among the Asian fisheries community. We noticed yesterday that the Asian Fisheries Society has rebuilt its website with XOOPS. The thing that suprised us is that (as fisheries is a fairly obscure sector), we didn't train them and we have no idea who did this.

That's got to be a good sign.

Onwards and updwards!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

sailjapan Published 06/29/2006 23:32 Moderator Joined 11/16/2005 Comments 1672

Firstly, many thanks to all concerned. XOOPS has made managing our site a doddle, and waaay more efficient.

Now, forgive me for just not getting it, but having read the release notes for this upgrade umpteen times, I'm still majorly nervous about applying it. I'm upgrading from 2.0.13.2

My worries lie in the fact that our site is majorly customised (or feels that way to me after all the tweaks we've made over the last half year) and I'd hate to have to do them all again. Let me get this straight:
Having backed up...
we have to copy (overwrite?) the contents of the htdocs/ folder except mainfile.php
If I copy, for example, the new Modules folder onto my server, won't that delete all the modules I have in my current Modules folder? Will I have to upload all those modules again and tweak each one to work the way I want them to, all over again?
Same goes for Themes...

Tell me I'm misunderstanding something here. Surely we're not being told we have to do what amounts to a clean install... are we?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Bender Published 06/30/2006 0:03 Home away from home Joined 03/10/2003 Comments 1899

1. Make a backup of your current site
- backup all files
- backup your database

2. Yes you will overwrite all files with the ones from the package except mainfile.php

3. You will not overwrite your module files because there are no longer modules (except for system) in the XOOPS package starting with version 2.0.14.

Finally whether you loose something or not depends on what you mean by majorly customized.
Did you hack any files directly or are you referring to the options you can set within XOOPS itself or its modules? If the first then hopefully you have a list of the changes you applied to be able to do them again with the new set of XOOPS core package files. If the second than you should not loose anything.

(after all remember to do step 1 to be on the safe side)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

sailjapan Published 06/30/2006 4:11 Updated 06/30/2006 4:17 Moderator Joined 11/16/2005 Comments 1672

Thanks for the input, Bender.
Re: #1 and 2. Ok,
Re: #3. So it's ok just to overwrite the new system folder and index.html file from the new modules folder into my existing modules folder? Hmm, ok. (plus all the other files/folders in the upgrade to their respective locations, of course)

As for "majorly customized", yes, I've hacked a bunch of files. Not just chosen admin-side settings... having said that, I think most - not all - tweaks were in module and template files rather than system files. I presume these will not need to change... Guess I'll just have to try it and see, eh?
One last thing, are there any changes to the contents of the images folder and uploads folder in htdocs? Can I get away with leaving my current ones in place? Sorry if this info is listed somewhere, don't seem able to find it.

Thanks again.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

snow77 Published 06/30/2006 4:26 Just can't stay away Joined 07/23/2003 Comments 864

you can skip uploading the system templates if you have previously done modifications to them, I don't think that will cause any conflict for the time being. There'll be no problem either if you skip uploading the images, uploads, and themes folder.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

sailjapan Published 06/30/2006 6:46 Moderator Joined 11/16/2005 Comments 1672

Cheers Snow.
Ok. I'm feeling more confident about doing this now. Thanks.

Finally, and I think many people might be wondering about this, in simple terms, what compelling reasons are there to make this upgrade? I know about the new block layouts, and I dare say there are other changes which make this appealing to coders out there. However, from the point of view of a business/community that uses XOOPS to run it's site, why should one perform this upgrade?
The only reason I am contemplating this upgrade (XOOPS 2.0.13.2 is working just fine as it is for us) is that it might be easier to upgrade to v2.3(4?) sometime down the road. I eagerly await v2.3(4?) native support for internationalisation and standards compliance. Am I right in assuming this will be the case, or, to be honest, would an upgrade to 2.3/4 be a case of remaking my site whether I do this upgrade or not.
Please don't misinterpret my comments here, I am in no way complaining nor dis-ing anyone's efforts. I respect and appreciate all the hours and effort the noble few have put into this project. As I said before, we're chuffed to **** with XOOPS and look forward to many more years working with it.
Hats off to you.

Crip
Sail Japan

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

birdseed Published 06/30/2006 8:57 Just popping in Joined 02/26/2005 Comments 59

Hi

By using a CVS System on your website rather than ftp upload (which is not a professional approach for community sites which are more than http://www.my-first-portal.com), you have full control over any updates if you have made core hacks (we did that and even fixed some core bugs in 2.2.4).

You can work with techniques like Diff, use version number to see if a file has been changed.

You can make the update on your local webserver, commit the changes merged with your hacks, then do a cvs update on your production website and everything will work flawless.

I think this will be the case for us when 2.4 comes out.

My personal wishlist for 2.4:

- everything fully implemented as smarty templates (the comment system!)
- optional Fulltext search
- performance!!!! (smarty, the handler, the queries...)
- mysql constraints (okay, the 3.23 problem :( )
- unified stylesheet classes
- layout completely based on divs
- ability to create custom blocks like in XOOPS 1
- multiple start pages

navigation as a core component with:
- breadcrumbs
- paging
- module commands, admin commands...

greetings
birdseed

XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

partisan Published 07/01/2006 18:50 Updated 07/01/2006 18:52 Just popping in Joined 07/01/2006 Comments 3

I have upgrade my site to XOOPS 2.0.14.
And i found a bug in comments and forums:
signature don't use xoops-code and smiles!

Preview = here
View my second message.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

Herko Published 07/01/2006 22:39 XOOPS is my life! Joined 02/04/2002 Comments 4238

The comments system doesn't show signatures I think.

The forum signatures could be an issue. WHat forum module are you using?

Your link leads to a page that I don't have access to.

Herko

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

partisan Published 07/03/2006 8:24 Just popping in Joined 07/01/2006 Comments 3

I changed permissions in forum.

Module = newbb2.02

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

tempo Published 07/03/2006 19:32 Just popping in Joined 11/12/2003 Comments 96

i'm using Catads 1.40 on my XOOPS 1.0.13.2 site and everything goes OK!

i'm trying to use Catads with the new XOOPS 2.0.14 and i have this problem: the characters on the ad seems like %#$%%#$ or ???????

i made a test site http://www.24net.gr/xoops14/modules/catads/

please check it.

do you have any idea what's wrong?

i'm searching the "XOOPS 2.0.14 changelog"

i think that the problem is here:
"Fixed bug #1496546: 2.0.14rc1 UTF-8 compatibility problems (skalpa/irmtfan)"

and

"Enhanced MySQL 4.1+ foreign encodings support (skalpa)"

maybe those changes create the problems in xoops2.0.14

any help?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

tamerlo Published 07/04/2006 9:27 Just popping in Joined 01/30/2004 Comments 71

I have the same problem with signatures in newbb 2.01, but I see another big problem: if you try to insert a comment with xoops-code and use the preview function, the XOOPS code in the text box will be substitute by the html code equivalent, and after the html code.

I upgraded my site from 2.0.13.2 to 2.0.14

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

menochi Published 07/04/2006 22:26 Friend of XOOPS Joined 12/28/2003 Comments 259

oh boy, I am on the right ship. Thank you SKALPA.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ThCraftman Published 07/05/2006 13:54 Just popping in Joined 02/02/2006 Comments 31

I feel like many others... I'm actually afriad to attempt to upgrade. My site has too many pages for a crash!

I tried the 2.014 RC and it crashed my other site...

Hmmm.... think I'll pass!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

ThCraftman Published 07/05/2006 13:57 Just popping in Joined 02/02/2006 Comments 31

I have the same feelings about this update/upgrade 2.0.14

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

tamerlo Published 07/05/2006 16:24 Just popping in Joined 01/30/2004 Comments 71

I'm not realy happy for the current status of XOOPS: 2.2 released and after few version declared "not reccomended", 2.0.14 problably released without a sufficient period of beta-testing.

What is happening in XOOPS comunity?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

tamerlo Published 07/06/2006 8:03 Just popping in Joined 01/30/2004 Comments 71

I tried to use the default theme and the default templates but the problem remains. I have insert a post within the forum, without answers....

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

alyussiu Published 07/06/2006 15:25 Not too shy to talk Joined 04/09/2004 Comments 119

Hello.

I was about to post the same kind of message.

I can't help you but I'm trying to find how to fix it. I remember that before I was able to set XOOPS to UTF-8 but I can't remember which files we had to change >_<.

Before upgrading, did you set your site to UTF-8 or?...

Also, if anyone would know about that, thanks in advance.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

alyussiu Published 07/06/2006 15:30 Updated 07/06/2006 15:36 Not too shy to talk Joined 04/09/2004 Comments 119

Oops, my message was for tempo. I didn't see comments weren't set to "flat" and though there were only one question O_O...

Also, I found that and it works for me:

 NOTE ABOUT CHARSETS 
This file uses the UTF-8 charset. If you use this file in a server with english language support, consider replacing the following directives: 
 
file language/english/global.php: 
< define('_CHARSET', 'ISO-8859-1'); 
> define('_CHARSET', 'UTF-8'); 
< define("XOOPS_USE_MULTIBYTES", "0"); 
> define("XOOPS_USE_MULTIBYTES", "1"); 
 
(< means the old value, and > means the new one)

I don't know if it'll works for you ^^.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

tempo Published 07/06/2006 22:54 Just popping in Joined 11/12/2003 Comments 96

thanks alyussiu

i try the suggestion but .... the problem remain the same.

For the moment i continue using XOOPS 2.0.13.2 on my site waiting the Final version of 2.0.14.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

twitaman Published 07/06/2006 23:01 Friend of XOOPS Joined 07/28/2004 Comments 270

About a year and a half ago I built a site with Xoops. I've sinced moved on, but I've just been informed that the web host, ipower.com, has just updated their server to Version 5.1.4.. This version is not in compliance with the version of XOOPS that I built the site with. I told them I'd help them out to get the site back up and running. But I am really rusty and am not sure how to fix the problem. Can anyone help me? Thanks for your time.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 bug in messages

damaster Published 07/06/2006 23:02 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

It's the final 2.0.14
You mean, wait for the 2.0.15!?

refresh not working?

DigitalBoots Published 07/07/2006 19:27 Just popping in Joined 10/14/2004 Comments 11

I have a problem with a fresh install of 2.0.14 in that the auto-refresh doesn't work (e.g. when a user logs in, submits a comment, etc).

From investigating, it seems that in the include/functions.php/redirect_header

the include of the rfresh is missing

$xoopsTpl->assign('xoops_module_header', '.$time.'; url='.$url.'" />');

and also that the function doesn't load the theme for the inclusion of the header
theme.html.php:_tpl_vars['xoops_module_header']; ?>

a workaround I did was to add the code line assigning the tpl header in the function, then manually adding the reference to system_redirect template.

how do I fix this properly?

thanks in advance

Re: refresh not working?

leostotch Published 07/07/2006 20:46 Just popping in Joined 04/01/2006 Comments 76

There's no need to change anything normally, the default template already contains everything needed.

redirect_header() displays the "system_redirect.html" template, and this template already contains the refresh code (modules/system/templates/system_redirect.html):

 <html> 
<head> 
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=<{$xoops_charset}>" /> 
<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="<{$time}>; url=<{$url}>" /> 
<title><{$xoops_sitename}>title>

Re: refresh not working?

DigitalBoots Published 07/07/2006 21:35 Just popping in Joined 10/14/2004 Comments 11

ah, that's what's happened. I copied over my template set from from previous version, and system_redirect.html is different. Thanks!

Also of note is that I couldnt do an upgrade, since user profiles in the old version was a module, and sothe user tables were different. I had to manually copy the data over to a new instance for this fresh install.

Re: refresh not working?

red_Slider Published 07/08/2006 15:12 Quite a regular Joined 01/04/2006 Comments 248

Many thanks from Polish community!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

rogett Published 07/12/2006 16:47 Just popping in Joined 05/05/2005 Comments 30

I am currently using 2.2.3. As everything seems to be working fine as is, does it make sense to just wait until these versions "come together" before doing any upgrades? As I understand it, I would need to downgrade to 2.0.13 to use this new version. However, if at some point these versions will 'merge' as you lessen the gap, shouldn't I wait?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

catalin12345 Published 07/13/2006 19:03 Just can't stay away Joined 07/19/2004 Comments 434

how to downgrade from 2.2.x to 2.0.14?!:)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

marckd Published 07/20/2006 1:10 Just popping in Joined 03/16/2006 Comments 86

after upgrading to 2.0.14, my module myalbum-p 2.86 has stopped working, and only blank pages r displayed!!
please! somebody help me!! :(

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/22/2006 20:54 Updated 07/22/2006 21:35 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Thanks for being too lazy to include some default modules.

This was annoying in 2.2 and now you adapted it for 2.0.14. Thanks a lot.

The links you provide in the release notes are partially rubbish. Herve's site doesn't contain a news module and when you click on the England flag you still get his texts in French (what I can't understand). Some of the Smart factory modules even lack english texts and are unusable due to that and the complete absence of documentation.

Why is it so difficult to keep XOOPS at a level it once had? XOOPS was so successful because it was easy to install. I cannot understand why - since some years - everybody in the XOOPS team is trying to make that as hard as possible

Now you can start flaming at me because I am not one of the "great work - thanks"-type of guys but I am really frustrated because I had to search for a simple links module for hours now.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/22/2006 20:59 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Quote:

how to downgrade from 2.2.x to 2.0.14?!:)

I tried just that today but all I got was a blank page. I carefully tried not to overwrite any module-specific files, but I guess the DB structure is different in 2.2 and 2.0.14. Great programming though that there is not even one error message when something couldn't be read from the database.

I deleted everything and installed 2.0.14 from scratch. But beware - it doesn't contain ANY module. So prepare for a long frustrating journey through the countless different parts of this website to find some working modules.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/22/2006 21:30 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Oh... criticism will be removed. Great! OK: Thanks so much for this fantastic realase. I am delighted with the work and there absolutely no problems at all. All the links in the 2.0.14 release notes are so delightful to read, and the software is so delightful too. Everything works without any problems. Fantastic work!! Thank you so much. You lightened my day!

Better?

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

msdana Published 07/22/2006 22:51 Updated 07/22/2006 22:52 Just can't stay away Joined 12/11/2005 Comments 817

Quote:

Some of the Smart factory modules even lack english texts and are unusable due to that and the complete absence of documentation.

While I'm happy that you are happy, I would like to ask to which SmartFactory modules you refer? I use several of their great modules as well, and I don't seem to have a problem with missing English text, and I don't seem to have a problem with them not working for that reason.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

mactoeknee Published 07/23/2006 19:45 Just popping in Joined 02/26/2005 Comments 75

There are also some bundles based on what kind of site at this link: https://xoops.org/modules/core/viewcat.php?cid=9

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

leostotch Published 07/23/2006 22:13 Just popping in Joined 04/01/2006 Comments 76

Quote:

Thanks for being too lazy to include some default modules.
This was annoying in 2.2 and now you adapted it for 2.0.14. Thanks a lot.

Devs spent entire days or even weeks working on this, and you're talking about lazyness coz spend 1/2 hour on something is too much for you...

Quote:

I am really frustrated because I had to search for a simple links module for hours now

Click on "module repository" on the left, there's a "weblinks" category right in front of you. That's 30 seconds...
Man, you need a brain, if doing this took you several hours maybe you shouldn't even be touching a computer but focus on something more adapted to your intellectual abilities, like a sport that wouldn't require too much strategy.

Now, that's an open-source project where people are free to enhance things: so if you really think a modules package would be positive and are ready to create and maintain such a package, I believe nothing prevents you from doing it (but you won't, will you ?)

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

Lance_ Published 07/23/2006 22:57 Home away from home Joined 01/12/2004 Comments 983

Quote:

like a sport that wouldn't require too much strategy.

I guess Backgammon is out then.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/24/2006 8:47 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Quote:

There are also some bundles based on what kind of site at this link

They are for version 2.2 and we are talking about version 2.0.14 here.

And apart from that, I just can't understand why those modules are not included in the release directly.

Remember: Not everybody is a XOOPS power user who knows that he has to go to smartfactory.ca to find a working download module.

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/24/2006 8:52 Updated 07/24/2006 8:53 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Quote:

Click on "module repository" on the left, there's a "weblinks" category right in front of you. That's 30 seconds...

And then it takes hours to test all the modules there.

If I was not satisfied with a generic, simple links module that is already included, THEN I could take a look in the modules repository.

BTW: Did you take a look into that repository? Most modules are older than two years and for example the Smartfactory modules aren't even included there at all. And neither is the Download module from XOOPS 2.0.13.

Sorry, but I really think this is something that can be improved A LOT!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

metropolis Published 07/24/2006 8:59 Updated 07/24/2006 9:06 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

Quote:

News download:
...

Thanks. I admit I expected News to be listed under "Modules Xoops" and since it wasn't there, I walked away.

But this is what I mean. It can be quite annoying to search several basic modules, especially when you know 2.0.13 and before, where everything was SO easy.

Oh... and did you notice? The language files are located under "Documentation"... my heaven... a clear structure must be really soooo difficult to set up...

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

McDonald Published 07/24/2006 10:19 Home away from home Joined 08/15/2005 Comments 1072

Quote:

Oh... and did you notice? The language files are located under "Documentation"... my heaven... a clear structure must be really soooo difficult to set up...

Language files can be found here: Download XOOPS >> XOOPS Core Languages.
Here you'll find 2 categories of language files: 1 for XOOPS 2.0.x and 1 for XOOPS 2.2.x
The most up-to-date language files can mostly be found on the local support sites.

The latest version of the News module is in the Modules Repository and it's in the correct category: Information >> News

A source for XOOPS modules is the Xoops Development Site.
And yes, here you will find the SmartFactory modules also.

Tip: get spectacles and your mouse calibrated!

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 released

solo71 Published 07/24/2006 10:34 Module Developer Joined 01/29/2003 Comments 941

Easy guys.

Our friend Metropolis, is maybe not comprehensive enough for all the hard work which is been done by the XOOPS development community, but he has some good points in its complains.

I personnally do not like the idea of having a "core only" XOOPS package. Finding a correct and stable module can be tricky with Xoops. There are so many modules available out there, that it is impossible for any stater to know which one to use... I think we really should provide 'a starter module package'.

I think all the experienced users have now their own favourits... I personnaly have my 'top 10'. Just scan the forums, and undoubtly, some of those modules would spit up : News, SmartSection, Liaise, multiMenu, WF-Downloads, etc. Providing a selection of basic and reliable module would help starters to begin with. Then, it's up to the user to dig in and spot the most suitable module for their needs (and up to their developers to promote them).

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Herko Published 07/24/2006 10:48 XOOPS is my life! Joined 02/04/2002 Comments 4238

We had modules in the core package, and people were complaining about there being newer versions available for those modules, and a lot of confusion about which version was the best to use. Also, newer vversions of modules had to be distributed via core releases, which have a different release schedule (modules could have new features, core releases were -note the past tense- maitenance releases only, with little or no database changes).

This is why we came up with the module packs. The idea isn't exclusive to XOOPS 2.2.x tho. Why not modify a few packages to work for 2.0.x, and make them available? That shouldn't be too hard to do, and will offer a quick way to get started for a lot of users!

Herko

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metropolis Published 07/24/2006 14:04 Updated 07/24/2006 14:08 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/15/2004 Comments 159

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Mostly it was because of your method of wording, which was slightly offensive

Yes, I know. I sometimes overreact a bit. This is because I install, configure, install, configure, search, install, configure, delete, search for a different module and at some point I am really fed up with this and I get frustrated. Sorry for that.

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Not as people are "lazy" - but as people don't get enough time to check everything unfortunately

But this has been done in the past as well, resp. those core modules were maintend by the XOOPS dev team. I can understand, it's not a funny task to evaluate 3rd party modules whether they work with a new released XOOPS version. But are there no core modules anymore at all?

If there will be no core modules in the core package, then I think module packs with clear download links are a must to avoid that XOOPS newbies look for something else. (The only hope here is, that the 'module chaos' is more or less the same with all the other open source CMS that I know...

). However, up to XOOPS 2.0.13 this was always one of the big advantages that XOOPS had: It ran straight out of the box. I would like to see XOOPS back on that track.

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gtop00 Published 07/24/2006 14:20 Updated 07/24/2006 14:22 Friend of XOOPS Joined 11/13/2004 Comments 498

Dear All,

The "Module repository" story has been discussed a lot in the past. Just have a look at this -very long- thread

And YES, I totally agree with the 'Module Packs'

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solo71 Published 07/24/2006 15:21 Module Developer Joined 01/29/2003 Comments 941

Regarding the 'module pack', keep in mind that the process is quite difficult, as to know which module deserves a seat in the core release. Big decision, difficult choice, though.

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m0nty Published 07/24/2006 15:52 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

whilst we're discussing everything but XOOPS 2.0.14 in these comments now..

i'll chip in with more OFF-TOPIC and irrelevant postings

that is: these comments aren't meant for this type of discussion, and well quite frankly it gets even more frustrating reading all these complaints from people who haven't even posted in the correct place and hijack a comments system with off-topic messages, you think you're frustrated, think how frustrated we are when we expect to be reading about XOOPS 2.0.14 and find comments that aren't related to XOOPS 2.0.14..

the whole world gets frustrated.. but for crying out loud, use the #OOPS# forum and not the comments for this, cos it really pisses many people off.

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JamesSAEP Published 07/27/2006 14:40 Just can't stay away Joined 02/28/2005 Comments 732

I successfully changed my 4x4n site from XOOPS 2.2.4 to XOOPS 2.0.14 with ease.

The process I used was:
1. Move the current files structure to a new directory x2.2.4 for backup purposes.
2. Make a backup of the database using phpmyadmin.
3. Using phpmyadmin, I downloaded the table structure and data for each module (cbb, xcgal, news, extcal, and users, profiles)
4. Install XOOPS 2.0.14
5. Installed the same version modules for cbb, xcgal, news
6. Install the extcal for 2.0.13
7. Combined the data from XOOPS 2.2.4 User and Profile tables and modified for the structure of XOOPS 2.0.14 fields.
8. Uploaded the new User table.
9. Uploaded the Data from each module in step 3.

That was about it.

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Rapor Published 08/24/2006 15:01 Just popping in Joined 05/29/2006 Comments 26

please 2.0.13.2 module.textsanitizer.php -> my 2.0.14 site upload (write) ?

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davidl2 Published 08/24/2006 16:25 XOOPS is my life! Joined 05/26/2003 Comments 4843

Please use this new version of the Sanatiser.

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Will_H Published 08/24/2006 18:19 Friend of XOOPS Joined 10/10/2004 Comments 1786

Is this going to be the only modification in the 2.0.15 release today?

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smogotsi Published 08/31/2006 12:55 Just popping in Joined 08/08/2006 Comments 1

I am having the same problem. I'm wondering if you have solved the issue or not. But i've isolated it to the default start page problem; for some reason any module i set as the default module produces a blank page. If i'm already in the module and try to reload the page, firefox tries to download index.html.

XOOPs 2.0.14
OS: Windows 2000 SP4
Apache 2.2.2 with PHP 4.4.4 (apachelounge)
MySQL 4.0.27

XOOPS 2.0.14 releasenotes not accessible

Herko Published 11/25/2006 7:42 XOOPS is my life! Joined 02/04/2002 Comments 4238

And it has some good explanations on how to add the new theme block positions, override features etc. (I know the override features have been described in a french tutorial that has been translated, but that is not the info I was looking for).

Herko

Re: XOOPS 2.0.14 releasenotes

rowdie Published 11/25/2006 8:32 Updated 11/25/2006 11:58 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

A copy of the release notes is included with every release - check the XOOPS 2.0.14 package.

You can also view it online from the SVN repository.

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