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phppp
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 0:41

  • phppp

  • XOOPS Contributor

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  • Since: 2004/1/25


Quote:

BlueStocking wrote:

@Herko, phppp, and Marco;
I also would like for you to enter into the discussion. From my point of view, if you do not... this proposal is dead in the water.


I started the thread based on MadFish and sailjapan's previous leading of discussion. Thus I will always keep myself in the constructive discussion.

Herko is the currently chairman, although he claims to quit by end of 2007, of XOOPS Foundation, which is the key point or one of the key points of the new structure. The proposal on Foundation part will be useless without his agreement.

Marco has his strong opinion on the organization of XOOPS, I do hope he can input into the proposal as well.

Predator, is another very valid candidate, who has made very valuable proposal draft.

Quote:

Thanks,
and lets keep this moving forward.
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damaster
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 0:42

  • damaster

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 556

  • Since: 2003/5/11


Quote:

gtop00 wrote:
Hey Catz, there is a misunderstanding; this is not a business case.
We are nobody's clerks and we do not need a boss (good or bad).

We all work here only and only because we like it. We just need to know if our efforts are lost or not.-


Wise! Let me ask, now that you have some pratice with organigrams, do you think this model or xoopscube.org one could be placed side-below-side to provide an overall vision of the existing possibilities, as "two models in pratice".

Thanks
I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!
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phppp
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 0:48

  • phppp

  • XOOPS Contributor

  • Posts: 2857

  • Since: 2004/1/25


Modestly suggestion:
Since MadFish is the starter of this very constructive discussion, shouldn't he play the role of "proposal preparation team coordinator"? To avoid useless arguments on the role, let's say the role has no special power but just help contact people who are in the preparation team and make sure the discussion is not dead at some step.

In case MadFish is not available for the role, we then should have another anyway in order to keep the discussion moving forward.
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BlueStocking
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

@phppp

I believe Madfish and SailJapan could work together, without conflict to achieve the proposed goal of unification of the proposals.

I don't see an either or situation between them but a common interest in bringing rest to these troubled waters.
I would put my trust in both of them working together if I know they have your support and cooperation.

This of course, includes the cooperation of the foundation.

Whoever that might be.

BS
hhttps://xoops.org/modules/repository .. It is time to get involved - XOOPS.ORG
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Catzwolf
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 1:29

  • Catzwolf

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  • Since: 2007/9/30


Quote:

gtop00 wrote:
Hey Catz, there is a misunderstanding; this is not a business case.
We are nobody's clerks and we do not need a boss (good or bad).

We all work here only and only because we like it. We just need to know if our efforts are lost or not.-


Then my friend that is where we differ, you can still have a business sense put into practice here with people willing to give there time and effert freely. just because a project is treated like a business does not mean you have a dictatorship or a heavy handed person demanding that this and that be done.

Am I the only person who actually sees a need for something like this to be put into place here at Xoops?
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skenow
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 2:23

  • skenow

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Question 1: Has the council and the foundation agreed to follow the recommendations of this effort?

Question 2: Can this group work strictly from the objectives, set their own timeline, communicated clearly, of course, and structure a functional organzation based on those objectives?

Question 3: Who's getting any work done?
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MadFish
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 2:40

  • MadFish

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1056

  • Since: 2003/9/27


Quote:
Since MadFish is the starter of this very constructive discussion, shouldn't he play the role of "proposal preparation team coordinator"? To avoid useless arguments on the role, let's say the role has no special power but just help contact people who are in the preparation team and make sure the discussion is not dead at some step.


I am happy to help organize and facilitate the discussions, if the other members will agree. I suggest that as first steps we need to:

1. Finalise membership of the draft proposal preparation team.
2. Set an agenda for the discussions, to keep us on track.
3. Decide how the discussions will take place.

Re. 1, could anyone who would like to participate in the team and who hasn't declared their interest yet, please put your hand up now. Maybe we could close this within another 24 hours?

Re. 2, I will come back with a suggestion for the committee to consider shortly.
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MadFish
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 13:32

  • MadFish

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  • Since: 2003/9/27


Quote:
I believe Madfish and SailJapan could work together, without conflict to achieve the proposed goal of unification of the proposals.

I don't see an either or situation between them but a common interest in bringing rest to these troubled waters.


I will contact him to discuss. I am sure we can work together one way or another.
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MadFish
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 13:52

  • MadFish

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  • Since: 2003/9/27


As far as I am aware, the people that have indicated their willingness to participate in the draft proposal preparation team are as follows:

* phppp
* madfish
* sailjapan
* bluestocking
* seth_sd
* wizanda
* gtop00

Thinking about it:
* skenow

I would appreciate it if the above people could please send me your email address via PM. If I've missed anyone please let me know. I'll update this list with any further info in the morning, and then maybe we can get started?
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wizanda
Re: Proposal: Towards A Sustainable Open Source Project

  • 2007/10/27 14:12

  • wizanda

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  • Since: 2004/3/21


Quote:

I would appreciate it if the above people could please send me your email address via PM.

We would appreciate us all talking on IM, allot of us are getting messages and points across through it and it would be helpful, if we all did....then all too become friends also!
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