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piroman
So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/17 23:50

  • piroman

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I'm switching to smf. One day, if XOOPS reverts to what it was, I'll switch back...
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mrphilong
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 0:03

  • mrphilong

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I am too at the cross road and the lack of info/update from the dev. makes me think of other cms.

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gestroud
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 1:21

  • gestroud

  • Home away from home

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  • Since: 2004/12/22


You might also want to look into WordPress. It's becoming a very sophisticated blog/CMS platform. I've already moved at least 40 XOOPS sites to it. Someone provided a handy guide to moving news articles to it:

http://www.cre8d-design.com/blog/2006 ... -from-xoops-to-wordpress/

Still running a few XOOPS sites, but it's becoming fewer and fewer and fewer...

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BroHam
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 2:35

  • BroHam

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These threads and posts are tiresome.
I don't know.

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JMorris
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 2:55

  • JMorris

  • XOOPS is my life!

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  • Since: 2004/4/11


Mmmmhmmm!

Those that want to stay, stay. Those who want to leave, leave. All the while, XOOPS continues.

One day, I too may leave. Then again, I may not. Will it matter? No!

No matter who you are, or what you've contributed to XOOPS, everyone is replaceable. Even Skalpa, php_pp and Rowd can be replaced if they leave. It is the nature of Open Source Software.

These "goodbye" threads are a waste of everyone's time and engergy. Come to think of it, why did I bother to reply to this...

:: has gone back to work doing something positive for XOOPS instead of wasting time on useless forum posts ::
Insanity can be defined as "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Stupidity is not a crime. Therefore, you are free to go.

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BroHam
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 3:56

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I don't know.

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gestroud
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 4:07

  • gestroud

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While I'm disappointed by the petulant tone of the previous posts (particularly from someone who posted an extensive "I Quit" post on the heels of posting a "30 themes in 30 days" post), I certainly respect and applaud your loyalty and dedication. There does come a time, however, when one may want to ask oneself if he or she wants to be viewed as the Edward John Smith of the CMS world.

Peace,

gestroud

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mrphilong
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 4:37

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Quote:

JMorris wrote:
It is the nature of Open Source Software.


I am very much a leecher but I've seen others who wanted to help were ignored, when talented people are ignored they would just leave! I am very sad too see this! As you said this is an Open Source Software, when I see "Open Source" it makes me think of one word "Community"! I may be wrong but my impression of XOOPS is a one man project.

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nachenko
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 15:24

  • nachenko

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  • Since: 2005/1/18


What's best, a spoon or a fork?

It's good to be in a crossroad, this is the way to improve. Learning some other stuff is a lot of work and a pain in the ass, but hey, we all know this is not easy. Both changing to other system and sticking with XOOPS are good choices if you do it for the right reasons.

I'm quitting and staying at the same time:

CMS world is so #OOPS# complex at this time that no single CMS can do all stuff efficiently. If you are a freelance, bad news, you probably will need to understand more than one CMS. I've been comparing Joomla, Drupal, Xaraya and XOOPS these days, reading some manuals...and these are my two cents:

Bad news, the holy grail of CMS does not exist. I've used XOOPS for years, and now I know it enough to see clearly its strenghts and flaws, but all other systems have other strenghts and flaws. Keep reading.


· Joomla: No Joomla at this moment, thanks. Some weird login problems in control panel, it damages it's image. Permission system too basic. Some customers won't need anyway, but who knows when one of those customers will tell you: "I had an idea and...". I'm not impressed, although it shows potential. Doesn't use Smarty.

· Drupal: Interesting concepts, multidimensional classification of documents is a great idea when you plan to have hundreds of documents. Seems a bit more heavy in my XAMPP distribution than XOOPS. Can use Smarty. Navigation in Drupal sites, such as Firefox extensions site, it's now well sorted from a usability perspective. It makes me suspect that organizing navigation when you have many documents is a serious problem, but not sure about that.

· Xaraya. Monster among monsters. I finally understood some weird concepts. It's for very advanced users. Xaraya is a killer. It has the potencial to be "the final solution". But is way too much for simple sites. Requires too much work for some stuff, not suitable for fast, simple projects. Professionals should only look at it for very complex projects, as requires too much time. The "hook" concept is absolutely amazing.

· XOOPS. Solid group-permissions system. Simple structure. Uses Smarty and God bless the one that had the idea of including it into the XOOPS core. Control panel is terribly ugly, but it works.
Most intensive use for me has been in scientific congresses. News for the scientific Content + TinyD (clonable version, thanks GiJoe) for the general info demonstrated to be a winner combination. A simple blog for news and advices, my personal hacked Contact module including DuGris' Captcha, and you're done.
Modules are black boxes between them, there's no communication at all. This is a problem for sophisticated projects, but it is a source of order and organization in sites that need to have everything well separated and defined... such as a scientific congress.

More to say about the new people in town:
I can say at this moment that the sites i've done for congresses should have been a total bluff if I used Joomla, this nice new guy. In a scientific congress you need lots of groups with different contents and permissions: Scientific committee, head of the scientific committee, local organizing, chair, secretary, administration, logistics, participants, invited speakers, press agency...

Look here for an example: www.sinestesia2007.info


These are my two cents. My next project is a seven-headed monster and I'll try Xaraya. But I'm being contacted for another congress next year, and I'll be using XOOPS. XOOPS is good for some things and not good for others.

Just use what you need. Need a spoon? Use a spoon. Need a fork? Use a fork. Piroman, use SMF if this is what you need. If someday you need the features XOOPS offer, just come back to XOOPS.

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Anonymous
Re: So Long and Thanks for All the Fish
  • 2007/5/18 16:02

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All this talk of spoons and forks is making me hungry

FWIW, I'm staying

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