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Oki
copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 15:50

  • Oki

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Where is the copyright? -> http://www.simdigital.com.br



domínio:       simdigital.com.br
entidade
:      Gustavo Sampaio Villa
documento
:     007.317.963/0001-62
responsável
:   Gustavo Sampaio Villa
endere
?o:      Gon?alves Dias567
endere?o:      18081-040 Sorocaba SP
telefone
:      (153233.0723 []
ID entidade:   GSV38
ID admin
:      GSV38
ID técnico
:    GSV38
ID cobran
?a:   GSV38
servidor DNS
:  ns1.simdigital.com.br 72.21.45.20 
status DNS
:    14/09/2006 AA
último AA
:     14/09/2006
servidor DNS
:  ns2.simdigital.com.br 72.21.45.21 
status DNS
:    14/09/2006 AA
último AA
:     14/09/2006
criado
:        23/01/2006 #2578402
expira??o:     23/01/2007
alterado
:      15/05/2006
status
:        publicado

ID
:            GSV38
nome
:          Gustavo Sampaio Villa
e
-mail:        registro.br@simdigital.com.br
criado
:        30/04/2005
alterado
:      07/06/2006

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Bender
Re: Where is the copywrite? ->>> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 16:06

  • Bender

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So ... now make some sense out of this. What are you talking about?
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Oki
copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com
  • 2006/9/17 16:22

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SimDigital CMS (commercial/paid) = XOOPS CMS (opensource/free).

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Will_H
Re: copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 18:24

  • Will_H

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they are using ISmart

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davidl2
Re: copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 18:36

  • davidl2

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We do not insist that people carry the XOOPS copyright on their sites, so long as the copyright is in the code. (Although it is nice if they do of course )

Is there any other concerns about this site, as we are not native speakers of the language?

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CeBepuH
Re: copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 18:57

  • CeBepuH

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Quote:

Biteronboard wrote:
they are using ISmart


ISmart? Hmmm. What they use does look like a modification of XOOPS. Just look at their theme.html for example. Or the names of the modules.

But I'm afraid that their ISmart is not the one in your link. That one seems to be on ASP.
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mauricio
Re: copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/17 19:11

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Quote:

Oki wrote:
domínio:       simdigital.com.br
entidade
:      Gustavo Sampaio Villa
documento
:     007.317.963/0001-62
responsável
:   Gustavo Sampaio Villa
endereço
:      Gonçalves Dias567
endereço:      18081-040 Sorocaba SP



yes, ISmart is a new commercial cms 'xoops based', is a parallel project from www.xoops.net.br and XOOPS Brasil team

'Gustavo Sampaio Villa' is the admin 'guvilla':
http://www.google.com/search?q=guvilla+xoops
http://www.google.com/search?q=guvilla



the new iSmarty theme:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<
html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="<{$ismart_langcode}>" lang="<{$ismart_langcode}>">
<
head>
<
meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-101059-1" />
<
meta http-equiv="content-language" content="<{$ismart_langcode}>" />
<
meta name="robots" content="<{$ismart_meta_robots}>" />
<
meta name="keywords" content="<{$ismart_meta_keywords}>" />
<
meta name="description" content="<{$ismart_meta_description}>" />
<
meta name="rating" content="<{$ismart_meta_rating}>" />
<
meta name="author" content="<{$ismart_meta_author}>" />
<
meta name="copyright" content="<{$ismart_meta_copyright}>" />
<
meta name="generator" content="ISMART" />
<
title><{$ismart_sitename}> - <{$ismart_pagetitle}></title>
<
link href="<{$ismart_url}>/favicon.ico" rel="SHORTCUT ICON" />
<
link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" href="<{$ismart_url}>/ismart.css" />
<
link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" href="<{$ismart_themecss}>" />

<!-- 
RMVadded module header -->
<{
$ismart_module_header}>
<
script type="text/javascript">
<!--
<{
$ismart_js}>
//-->
</script>
</
head>
<
body>
<
center>
<
table width="100%" border="0">
        <
tr>
                <
td>
            <
table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
                                <
tr>
                                        <
td width="155"><a href="<{$ismart_url}>"><img src="<{$ismart_imageurl}>imagens/logo.gif" width="155" height="157"></a></td>

                                        <
td background="<{$ismart_imageurl}>imagens/topo_fundo.gif" style="padding:8px; vertical-align:middle;"><div align="left"><img src="<{$ismart_imageurl}>imagens/fundo_profiles.jpg" width="497" height="142" /></div></td>
                                        <
td width="49"><img src="<{$ismart_imageurl}>imagens/topo_fundo_dir.gif" width="49" height="157"></td>
                                </
tr>
                        </
table>
        </
td>
        </
tr>
        <
tr>
                <
td>
            <
br />

            <
table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
                                <
tr valign="top"><br>
                                        <
td width="160" style="padding-right:10px">                    <{section name=blockLeft loop=$ismart_lblocks start=0}>
                                                <
table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
                                                        <
tr>
                                                                <
td bgcolor="#BFD1E7" style="padding:8px;" class="blocosEsq"><center>
                                                                                <
div class="titulo"><{$ismart_lblocks[blockLeft].title}></div>
                                                                                <
div class="conteudo"><{$ismart_lblocks[blockLeft].content}></div>

                                                                        </
center>
                                </
td>
                                                        </
tr>
                                                </
table><br>
                    <{/
section}>
                    </
td>
                                        <
td><{if $message!=""}><div class="message"><{$message}></div><{/if}>
                    <{
section name=blockCCenter loop=$ismart_ccblocks start=0}>
                                                <
table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid #a2b6e2; background-color:#FFFFFF;">

                                                        <
tr>
                                                                <
td style="padding:8px;">
                                    <
div class="titulo"><{$ismart_ccblocks[blockCCenter].title}></div>
                                                                        <
div class="conteudo"><{$ismart_ccblocks[blockCCenter].content}></div>
                                </
td>
                                                        </
tr>
                                                </
table><br>
                        <{/
section}>
                        <
table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid #a2b6e2; background-color:#FFFFFF;">

                                                        <
tr>
                                                                <
td style="padding:8px;">
                                    <
div class="content"><{$ismart_contents}></div>
                                </
td>
                                                        </
tr>
                                                </
table>
                               </
td>
                            <
td style="padding-left:10px; width:150px;">

                                <
center>
                                <{
section name=blockRight loop=$ismart_rblocks start=0}>
                                <
table width="98%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border:1px solid #a2b6e2; background-color:#FFFFFF;" class="blocosDir">
                                <
tr>
                                   <
td style="padding:8px;"><div class="titulo"><{$ismart_rblocks[blockRight].title}></div>
                                   <
br>
                                   <
div><{$ismart_rblocks[blockRight].content}></div></td>
                                </
tr>

                                </
table>
                                <
br>
                                 <{/
section}>
                                 </
center>
                            </
td>
                            </
tr>
                        </
table>
</
td>
        </
tr>
        <
tr>

                <
td><br /><br /><center><{$ismart_footer}></center></td>
        </
tr>
</
table>
</
body>
</
html>

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gvilla
Official Reply
  • 2006/9/18 13:21

  • gvilla

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  • Since: 2006/9/18


We come to this topic to comunicate that no ones of our activities are outlaw.
Our products and services are Open-Source based and beliving that kind of iniciative, we respect the rules.

We would like to clear somethings:

1) Open Source projects, differently than so many people think, can bring profit to people who want to work professionaly with it. This is the base to the project sucess.

2) One of the rules to use XOOPS is: If you change the structure of the project, it is better if you do not use the XOOPS name. Because this, there are too many projects following parallel line with different names.
The Ismart has 30% of XOOPS Source Code modified and so, we opt to change the name.

3) Ismart isn't just a CMS. It is a complete web-solution to companys, and include files, consultants, support, maintenance and custom development.

4) To finish, we express here our full and totaly indignation and repudiation with topics like this. This discution is tipic from people who want disunite the brasilian community. People who likes to sink anothers, contrary to do something util to the grow up projects like this.


Regards,
SimDigital Team.


PS.: Sorry my bad english, but i'm efforting to moderators read easily.


---------------------------
Versão Brasileira
---------------------------

Vimos por meio deste, comunicar que nenhuma de nossas atividades são ilegais.
Nossos produtos e serviços são baseados em projetos Open Source e por usar e acreditar nesse tipo de iniciativa, respeitamos as regras impostas.

Gostaríamos de deixar claro que:
1) Projetos Open Source, diferentemente do que algumas pessoas pensam, eles podem e devem gerar receita para aqueles que pretendem trabalhar profissionalmente com isso. Essa é a base para que o projeto tenha continuidade e seja viável.

2) Uma das normas para uso do XOOPS é que caso sua estrutura seja modificada, NÃO se deve utilizar o nome xoops. Estes são os casos de projetos que por um motivo ou por outro não desejam seguir a linha de desenvolvimento do Xoops. O Ismart conta com cerca de 30% do seu código totalmente modificado e pelos motivos anteriormente citados, alteramos o nome.

3) Ismart não é apenas um CMS. É uma solução completa para empresas, que inclui arquivos, consultoria, suporte, manutenção e desenvolvimento personalizado.

4) Para finalizar, deixamos aqui nossa total indignação e repúdio com esse tipo de tópico. Esta discussão é tipica de membros desagregadores da comunidade brasileira, que pensam em afundar os outros ao invés de fazer algo de útil para o crescimento deste tipo de projeto.


Atenciosamente,
Equipe SimDigital.

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Herko
Re: Official Reply
  • 2006/9/19 7:00

  • Herko

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  • Since: 2002/2/4 1


Sorry, my portuguese/brazillian is non-existant, so you'll have to do with my english.

I'm ok with this fork (which it technically is) if the following conditions are met:

- The code (a derrivative work of the XOOPS open sourced code) is released under the terms of the GPL 2.0. This doesn't mean you can't sell the product, it does mean you can't restrict buyers freedom to use and do with it that they want. Failure to comply with this condition may result in legal action.

- The original source of your code (the XOOPS Project) is credited in every file containing a bit of original code. The code may be open source, but it IS copyrighted by the XOOPS project and its original authors. The copyright is licenced (making it copyleft), but not removed.

- The XOOPS project is credited somewhere public as well. Its only fair to do so when you make money with other people's work, with your own work added to it.

Herko

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topet05
Re: copyright issues -> http://www.simdigital.com.br
  • 2006/9/19 7:56

  • topet05

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Quote:

mauricio wrote:
Quote:

yes, ISmart is a new commercial cms 'xoops based', is a parallel project from www.xoops.net.br and XOOPS Brasil team


It's not true...

I develop modules, i like XOOPS to work, my company sell support with xoops. But we share part of our work with the community and i think that is a good price to pay for this wonderful CMS. I dont care if some peoples dont do the same, i do my part helping XOOPS grow up.
Please, dont think wrong about the brazillians XOOPS communities... No one is commercial and all do the best for they users.
Thank You!
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