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greeny
Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/6 18:05

  • greeny

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Ok How Can I Make It So That Hotmail Users Get The Registration Email In There Inbox Instead Of Their Junkmail.
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-DJNZ-
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/6 23:35

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You need to set up SPF for your domain.
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brash
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/7 0:32

  • brash

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Cool, I'm definately going to have to check this out . I've just been using my ISP's mail server as a smart host to get around this.
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-DJNZ-
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/7 0:52

  • -DJNZ-

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brash this may help you.
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brash
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/7 1:29

  • brash

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Thanks -DJNZ- . I've only been using the basic interface at DynDNS to date, time to throw myself in the deep end . Can't beleive that I spent hours trying to find a solutions to this problem 6 months ago, and here it is just a simple DNS configuraton issue. I use Exchange 2003 and I went around all the big excahnge support sites and they said it was simply due to my IP address being a dynamic IP and there was nothing I could do about it. I just set my server to use Smart host to bypass it and didn't give it much more thought.
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-DJNZ-
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/7 3:27

  • -DJNZ-

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Oh, if you do have a dynamic IP for your server then even with SPF you will have a different problem. MSN/Hotmail (and AOL) block email from servers without reverse DNS and, basically, you can't implement reverse DNS for a dynamically allocated IP. More about this at the excellent DNSstuff.com site.

What you need to do is set up XOOPS to send mail using your ISPs SMTP login (as I presume you have already). You can then create a SPF record

it-hq.org. IN TXT "v=spf1 include:myisp.com"

which will make any server which is valid for sending mail from myisp.com valid for sending mail from it-hq.org.

Beware that you may be infringing your agreement with your ISP by using its SMTP as a mail relay like this, although in practice you are a lot less likely to cause them a problem than a home user with a worm. However, the 'right' way to do it is either to get a line with a static IP with reverse DNS provided by the ISP, or to use a hosted server.

Good luck!
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greeny
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/9 2:54

  • greeny

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Very Cool Any One Know Of A Hot Or Not Script For xoops?
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jctsup1
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/9 5:37

  • jctsup1

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  • Since: 2002/5/23


-DJNZ-


Quote:

-DJNZ- wrote:
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it-hq.org. IN TXT "v=spf1 include:myisp.com"
....


Wouldn't this allow anyone from his ISP to send mail with forged headers?

Thank you for the information on this --- I have setup records for all my mail domains and hope this catches on in the industry.
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-DJNZ-
Re: Hotmail Users

  • 2005/4/10 1:29

  • -DJNZ-

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Quote:

jctsup1 wrote:
Wouldn't this allow anyone from his ISP to send mail with forged headers?

Well yes, but as he doesn't have a fixed IP for his own domain, he has to route his email through some other domain's mail server and his ISP seems like the best choice. Every ISP would come down very hard on a user found forging another customer's mail headers, and it would be really easy to trace. Nothing stops anyone from sending mail with forged headers - SPF just makes that mail look like spam to SPF-aware spam filters.

Quote:

jctsup1 wrote:
Thank you for the information on this --- I have setup records for all my mail domains and hope this catches on in the industry.

Thanks for your comments. I have mixed feelings about SPF (see http://spf.pobox.com/objections.html), but with MSN/Hotmail and AOL demanding it, the objections are now irrelevent - if you want your email to get through, you need SPF.

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