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I'm intrigued as to how you feel the Japanese community can save XOOPS. I would love it if the Japanese community would be more involved and now a couple of representatives only have to come forward and they can join other local support sites in a place to discuss matters for the benefit of XOOPS together with representatives from other local support sites, without interference.

I am not against public discussions, but when it comes to getting things done, having too big a crowd will only lead to too many suggestions and too little action. Of course the general public must be involved in discussions, but at some point, I think it is beneficial to be a smaller group (We have 22 local support sites. Let's say we have 2 representatives from each site plus some xoops.org representatives. That's about 50 people. Enough to be representative, while small enough to get things done)

Right now a rather small group have access to a couple of forums that are closed to the public. I expect that number to grow and maybe the closed forums disappear - if that is what the group ends up recommending in order to improve communication. However, we will need some alternatives as the current way of doing it is clearly not working.

What are your ideas to solve this?

Quote:And you shall be so very welcome. I encourage you to contact ManXP who has also talked about an official Lithuanian support site. Maybe you can make it real together.

Sorry, I don't understand Englsh very much. Can you tell me where are these new forums ? Is this only for local support admins ?

@Mith

Thanks for changing the picture.

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gediminasbyt this is not the end of it, it is just the phase where we move from discussion to actually putting a plan of action together. The reason I asked Mith for a Private forum is that too often have I seen threads started with great intentions and even better ideas, but they never get much past the discussion phase. XOOPS is in no shortage of people offering their opionion on how they think things should be done, the shortage exists in people actually willing to take action and actually put in the time. The other major reason is that I want myself and the few others that have actually said we want to help to be able to put our plan of action together without every move being commented on and scrutinized from the sidelines. Public discussion is great, but it does tend to stall the action process.

We will be putting together a plan that we will put to the community for comment before taking action on. We just need the space to be able to put this plan together with minimal interuption.

I think people should be able to read the messages in private forum and only limited people could post in that forum. Then people maybe interested in the process and could join, or they could sumit their ideas to the correct man and who could get more information before make the decision. And you won't get more and more noises if the man know how to lead the topics.

I truly hope the Japanese team could take part with us again. :)

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Sorry Mithrandir, Brash and everyone else in the core/development team for miss-explanation of my thoughts. I'm not able nor willing to give credits to certain people, countries, origins or what ever else. I'm just not involved enough in the process of the XOOPS making.The only thought I had was to bring Japanese team back to Xoops.org And what I meant by "save the Xoops" was to not to fork the XOOPS but bring all the community together and to develop XOOPS further together, and not trying to make separate/concurent products.

Brash, thanks for info, I will definitely contact ManXP.

Gedis

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Except that you get a lot of public-forum posts about what is being discussed in the semi-closed forums.

The closed forums are not there to take away the public right to comment before decisions are made, but simply for the volunteers to have a place to discuss this. The alternative, I think, would be IM discussions and/or mailing lists.
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Me too.
I heard the JP team had their will. It is not for a bug reporter or sub-programmer, but a leading core developer to improve the XOOPS.

Hello,

I'd like to have access to this private forum too.

Thank you

bye,
Hervé

As the webmaster of Http://www.FarsiXoops.orG , I really like to access these forums to discuss this matter!

This thread started by mentioning the lack of project management (roadmap?), transparency (private forums!?) and inter-communities communications issues... will it end up with a lack of roadmap, lack of transparency in some communications and an unexplained rize of secretism?

Please, stop wainting to have control over everything? And let some information come out!

Can only two people represent democraticly all the XOOPS communities?

At last but not least, leave to one only man the responsability of future XOOPS Core developement under XOOPS Fondation control, is it an Open Source approach?

I was reading the logo slogan "powered by you"...
that means me the unknow XOOPS User?
Because this is also what made me join the XOOPS Project!

P.S. Hope is the last thing to die !