The only problem i see with impresscms is that xoopsfoundation directors are involved in the product. Literaly from law point of view, yes a director or board-member etc have a legal responsibility to not be involved with a competing project, so even though these are open source projects and they can continue to support any one or two or any number of cms but only as long as they do not hold any position in the xoopsfoundation. The actions of the xoopsfoundation board-members involved with impresscms goes against the statutes of the foundation.

@vaughan/monty/etc. & co
One thing is sure : you are impressive at lying. You will allways make us laugh

A very old and succesful strategy is : divide and rule.

Please take a moment to think about this.

to the XOOPS community, is that the kind of admins you want on this site managing your project, people that advocate malicious hacking and abuse of privacy?

no longer active on xoops.org until Damaster is banned

as for marcan, herko and david resigning?

why?

it is not against any rule whatsoever for those people to want to help & support another project. the foundation is not supporting it with funding.

thew foundation is there to support xoops, but either way, as you so elequantly put it the other day along with BS, the Foundation does not exist in XOOPS anymore, that was your statement not mine or the foundations.

Hi everyone,

I just had a chat with Mamba to explain a few things that where not correct in his post.

First, the time line is not correct.

On September 13th, James Morris registered the impresscms.org domain as well as the ImpressCMS project at sourceforge, for reasons of his own. He gathered 3-4 people but it did not work. A few weeks later, the impresscms.org site was closed.

At the end of November, a group of people that was disagreeing with the way XOOPS was managed decided to form a Google group to discuss possible solutions.

In the mean time, I started participating to the Drafting Proposal Preparation Team lead by Madfish and Sailjapan, as a representative of the XOOPS Foundation.

My last post on their forum was on December 1st.

On December 3th, I had personaly lost all faith in the current XOOPS situation and I was now convinced that it would take years before the project would be back on his feet if it was ever.

James had told me earlier about ImpressCMS so I contacted him and he decided to join me in this new adventure. I wrote down a draft of a project and I proposed it to the Google group to see if they would be interested. Nearly everyone joined. ImpressCMS was then started.

James gave me admin privileges on ImpressCMS Sourceforge project and changed the DNS of the domain to point it on one of my server.

On December 5th, it was clear that a Google group was not the best place to discuss, so we needed a forum. Since everyone was already registered at XoopsInfo.com and since the administrators of this site were on board with us, we decided to use a forum there. The forum was to be private for now because we needed to organize our thoughts, organize our vision, our objectives and our roadmap.

When this was to be completed, it was our objective to:

- Make a public statement on the ImpressCMS.org site
- Move our forums to ImpressCMS.org

We are now a few days away from this happening.

You can see in attachment, the SourceForge Audit trail displaying the changes in the ImpressCMS project, making it clear that people started to join ImpressCMS on December 3rd.

So, Mamba, in your list, you were not correct about the timeline. The Foundation has nothing to do with ImpressCMS. However, I do agree, that it would have been more transparent to have resigned from the Foundation before starting this.

I agree to this and I hereby resigned from the board of directors of the XOOPS Foundation. I will address a proper resignation letter today.

As for using the Foundation's assets to do this, well, XoopsInfo was created by volunteers and the Foundation did not invest 1$ in it. It only provided the hosting. And since the servers of the Foundation are not used by the Council and that the XoopsInfo site administrators agreed to grant us this access, I see no real problem.

However, I can understand why it could be seen like a transparency problem, hence why will be moving our forums to another server.

What is the most important for us is to start fresh, to stop fighting and to participate in a true open source project which has a great vision, a great community, a great product and most of all, a project that IS FUN to be involved with.

Since the last 2 weeks, we have been experiencing the fun every single minute, and I can’t wait to share this fun with everyone who would like to participate !

So, Mamba, in your list, you were not correct about the timeline.

The Foundation has nothing to do with ImpressCMS. However, I do agree, that it would have been more transparent to have resigned from the Foundation before starting this.

I agree to this and I hereby resigned from the board of directors of the XOOPS Foundation. I will address a proper resignation letter today.

As for using the Foundation's assets to do this, well, XoopsInfo was created by volunteers and the Foundation did not invest 1$ in it. It only provided the hosting. And since the servers of the Foundation are not used by the Council and that the XoopsInfo site administrators agreed to grant us this access, I see no real problem.

However, I can understand why it could be seen like a transparency problem, hence why will be moving our forums to another server.

Wishing back the good old times, where XOOPS meant fun and community. An open statement from the "leavers" seems to me a good idea, which will never come I fear.

Who wants to join me creating a new fork called POOP (PURELY egO ORIENTED PORTAL)? I guess thats what its all about nowadays.

Please also note that as of 6:46 am est that xoopsinfo, xoopsaddons xoopsfoundation sites are down.

So please stop screaming, there's nothing wrong working on a tentative branch (at this time, it's just a branch) at the same time you check how is XOOPS going on. I have one feet in Drupal, I'll have finished my second Drupal website in two weeks and I'm still here.

iii) Contact ANYONE at Impress and ask them if I have agreed to join that project.