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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/14 13:10

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I just want to make sure I understand all of this.

1.The Moderators do not need more help, right now. their team is functioning.
2.Their only crime, as a team, is not publicly posting their team status
3.They need the authority to do their job.
4.At the very least, an explanation why a decision was reversed by the management

Therefore, I suggest that the Moderator team is not taken over by the 'Community Coordination' team right now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

However It might not be a bad idea for the Moderator team to let the Community Coordination team know what they are doing, and let the Community Coordination team make the public announcement. Since many of the same people who listed in Community Coordination are also moderators, It makes this task much easier.

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BlueStocking wrote:

My opinion.
BS
EDIT ADDON: that may include a little training in diplomacy.


I think it is safe to say we all, including myself, could use this.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 20:53

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Really, this thread has to do with the selection of forum moderators. It is not my intention to down the moderators we have been given, I think they are all excellent people.
But I believe it is time for a change.


Odd you should mention this little tidbit. I was going back through the thread and re-reading some of the posts. I came across this one from D.J.

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phppp wrote:
I would suggest the team to be replaced with "community coordinator team"


Would the Moderators be moved over to 'Community Coordinator' team making the Community Coordinators responsible for moderating the forums?

I full heartily agree, that all the rules should be posted on the Xooops.org web site, and those should be the only rules enforced.

I also agree that the moderators need to be identified in the 'Who's online' sidebar, in some manner. I am still on the fence about using colors or a separate log in (Moderator 1, etc.)

Moderators need the authority to do their job. If they see something that needs to be shutdown, let them shut it down. on the flip side they also need to know they will be held accountable by the management if they screw up.

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it would not be out of line to solicit some new blood that handled the bulk of the moderators duties.


Moderators can be your best friend or worst enemy. Who really wants the job of being hated.

Everyone hates me already so I am used to it

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(unless of course, if you don't have the means to do anything more than to delete spam and be a burr in someones saddle ... then, in which case you have too many moderators now. I would suggest doing away with most of them.)


I would hold off on removing moderators until all the teams get a bit more settled.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 19:51

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My bad. it is on Xoopsinfo Code of Conduct page.

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or as we have heavily modified them on xoopsinfo you can read our changes in our Code of Conduct page.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 19:37

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Not using all caps is listed in XOOPSiquette.

It is listed under "Subjects for posts"

Even if it wasn't, posting in all CAPS is bad form and generally frowned upon in most netiquette circles.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 18:09

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let's do it this way.

leave the past in the past. Focus on today. using what you have learned.

What do you need to be a good moderator?

How would the ideal complaint / appeal process work?

Who should the moderators be accountable to? (not the community)

What would you change about today moderators?
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 17:58

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The moderators are worthless to the community IF they do not have the authority to ACT.


I agree, however they need to be held accountable to something more than just the community.

If a decision is overturned it should be well explained why.

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IF they cannot be trusted to use good judgment then they should be relieved of that position and used where they have more value.


Only if you have someone who is willing to step up and take over.
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Re: [XoopsTeam] report - Forum Moderator - status
  • 2007/6/13 16:44

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just because i am a moderator does not mean i am not entitled to speak freely of my own personal regard, not everything i say is as a moderator.
moderators often do have opinions, and they should be allow to express those opinions like every other user. The moderator also needs to respect the opinions and comments of other users and not use their powers to remove any argument to their position Quote:
if i am moderating, you'd know i'm moderating. because we'd leave a note if posts were edited. or if i issue a warning in a topic ie. "please keep this discussion friendly & on topic" then i am speaking as a moderator.
Good idea. I might even go as far as to say that you need to mark your note or posting with a prefix of some kind to indicate you are acting as moderator (name) and not as user (name) Quote:
we have guidelines to follow, we have xoopsiquette. does any moderator act on their own behalf when dealing with members? no we don't.. we put it to a vote, and the majority vote gets the consensus. we only act on our own discretion when dealing with spam or other issues that aren't major ones..
As it should be. Maybe I missed something here, but maybe the results of the vote and any discussion should be posted for all to see. Quote:
if you question my decision as a moderator, feel free to message me privately to discuss it, if you feel the situation isn't resolved after taking up with the person concerned, by all means then contact another moderator etc.. failing that goto management team,
Maybe 'leader' is too strong of a term. I believe what is being sought is someone to deal with complaints of moderator abuse. Rather than complain to Moderator 'B' that Moderator 'A' doesn't like them. The fact that the moderators work as a team is great. it makes sure all the forums are moderated in the same way. and no one person can be blamed is some action that is taken. Maybe a more correct term is 'Manager' or 'Facilitator' Someone to make sure the moderators have everything they need get the job done, deal with any complaints, and maybe lead any discussions / voting. Just from doing some spot reading of all the forums I get the impression that some is not most people want to know:
  1. Who are the moderators?
  2. What are the rules? (xoopsiquette)
  3. How do I complain? or Who do I complain to?
We all know they are a few people out there that will jump straight to the management level and demand a moderator be removed because of the slightest oversight. Maybe some kind of documented complaint process, that is respected by the moderator and the management teams. I am not disagreeing with you completely, just a modified agreement. Just my two cents worth
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Re: [XoopsTeam] progress - community coordination - June 10th
  • 2007/6/12 1:32

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I want to be sure that I understand what this is about.

We are the people contact when they have a question about Xoops, or the XOOPS project. If we can't find the answer, we point them to those who can?

I can do that.


How do the team meetings take place? In a forum or as on-line chat somewhere?
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Re: [XoopsTeam] - JAVesey - Community Coordination
  • 2007/6/9 4:23

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Greeting all;

I am Mike C , from Hartford, South Dakota, in the U.S.

I have maintained several web sites before, and a XOOPS based site for just over three years. I really shouldn't say that, I am constantly upgrading, adding, modifying, tweaking this or changing that. It seems as the web site is never really done.

I am offering some of my free time to XOOPS project to make it even better. I believe the best place that I can help is the “Community Coordination” I have been using XOOPS for several years for several sites, it's high time I gave something back.

My coding skills are extremely limited. I can get the site to do what it needs to do, by following the instructions and trail and learn (error)

I am a consumer computer technician with an emphasis on communications by trade, I just received my AA degree in Business Administration.

I'm forty something, happily married with 2 children. Normally, I volunteer with the disaster services, and when there isn't a disaster to deal with, I like to make wine.

I don't need to be a team leader, just let me know what you need help with, then let's get it done.
Some dream of success, while others wake up and work for it.
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