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Re: Xoops Hocasi
That look wonderful. IS there a way of purchasing it? I noticed in the demo that the slider stay on every page. Is there a way of only having the slider on the index page?
I hope, it was purchased, otherwise we would have a problem here...
Re: Xoops Hocasi
I bought.
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seems to me like a deja vu again a theme designed by heyula @robmydesign: search for other themes designed by heyula
this time he again claims others people work as his own
what I do not understand is how this news can be published. this news do not contain any further information or a download link or any information except a screenshot and a link to a mysterious turkish site.
the reaction of heyula will be something like: I never said that I am the designer of this theme yeah sure, you have never done something wrong. it is a misunderstanding like every time
Re: Xoops Hocasi
@ Bleekk, The news was published because it was filed under YAXS, so there is no need for any download links.
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@mamba sorry, didn't realize that this was published like a yaxs. the content is full of demo text like "Lorem ipsum" so I thought that this must be a demo of a theme. Now I am curious what this site is about...
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@robmydesign
I don't know who are you but I'm not a imitator. You sign up to xoops.org for only say to me "imitater"! I feel sorry for you!
@Bleekk
I'm adapting a theme to xoops which I paying it's fee and I'm publish it on xoops.org. I'm not be obliged to take permission for this. I don't know the what's your problem with me, But I'm not be obliged to you of I'm doing for which target this site which created of me. I wish we are fight at the other theme too much. Good wishes, Bleekk.
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. I don't know the what's your problem with me
Oh my problem with you is that you took my themes and aphexs designes and published it as yours! don't remember anymore?
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I wish we are fight at the other theme too much.
no idea what you mean, sorry
why is it that hard to mention that you only ported this theme (or all other themes)?? there is nothing wrong about it. every ported theme is very good for the community. you should respect other peoples work and leave the credits. you should not release others peoples work as yours! how would you feel when someone would steel your work? oh I forgot you have no own designs
also best wishes, heyula, you protectionist of intellectual property
Re: Xoops Hocasi
Once again... I feared for this :s
It's really time to do something against this Mamba, it's giving XOOPS a bad name.
And Heyula, clean up your CSS before you publish it, still has WP code in it (e.g.: /* Theme Name:Theme 219 Theme URI:http://www.dreamtemplate.com/ Description:The original WordPress theme that graced versions 2.6.x and prior. Version:1.0 AuthorreamTemplate */ )
Try to keep those out, every kb extra is one too much ;)
Oh and you are breaking that site's their rules (which you agreed on when buying that theme), more specifly this rule: * You may not claim that you designed our templates.
Please change that footer asap !
Re: Xoops Hocasi
Guys, let's try to focus on the issue here. Heyula said that he purchased the template. So unless the Dreamtemplate people state otherwise, we are moving on. Remember - everybody is innocent until proven guilty.
If he violated his license agreement with the Dreamtemplate company, then we make him aware of it. Heyula - you need to correct the statements about "Design by" on the website, if that what the license is calling for.
We're all aware that some mistakes have been made in the past, but as long as they have been corrected, and not done again, we need to move on and not bring it up again.
Thanks for your understanding. Just trying to keep peace here
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Heyula; Thank you for the work. are getting a new interface, thanks to Xoops.
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Thank you for your understanding
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@mamba there was no war so no reason for keeping peace there are only facts! why did you delete heyula's last comment? this was perfectly illustrating heyula as he is!
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@Bleekk really funny
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@ Bleekk Because it didn't bring anything to the discussion, and could only escalate it further.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
if the theme was Bought and then edited .
1- did the Original Designer Permit editing his work after purchasing.
2- if he/she permit editing the theme did he/she say to refer to the original designer for any credit
3- Do not Know if word ' Steal' Means also ' adopt'
4- @ heyula , i do not think there is any thing funny to wht Bleekk has Said , things Like this Make's People like Bleekk Moves away from Xoops . and we the 'End User' do not want see that Cuz it Makes running a website Harder on us than if there someone helps for Free.
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Btw since when do we allow a picture and a link as a post? I think you'd at least need to give some information or it simply doesn't belong here.
This is giving no information or whatsoever, so I don't think it should have been posted. Please try to add a minimum of information ;)
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Btw since when do we allow a picture and a link as a post?
As far as I know, we don't have official requirements for minimum information. It's up to the author. Of course, it's nice to know what modules they are using, and something more about the Website, but it's not required.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
Oh Good the post is still here.
So unique price of the design is over 2k and by porting a commercial item even if you purchased it is sort of a theft because at the end of the day you render the hard work of the original designer well... obsolete.
I very much doubt you paid 2k for that design just so u can release it for a different platform. If you paid anything for it I doubt the license agreement allows you to re-distribute the work of other people.
Oh and yeah...people who ONLY port themes don't qualify as a designers, you're just a copy machine who happen to still. And you are far from being honest about it otherwise you would've mentioned like other good people do when they release ported designs... that the design is a port of "x" or "y" while you only did it because that guy exposed you.
Some day, you're gonna find someone who will have enough resources to make you pay.
Best of luck, you'll need it!
Re: Xoops Hocasi
Hi. This theme is Original DreamTemplate. We have account 1 years. And heyule is convert for xoops.
This is very good work because xoops havent enaugh good templates. Joomla is not good system but it have very perfect themes.
Xoops is not using Turkish peoples. BEcause not have good free templates. We are learning how is theme editing. and later we want create free themes for xoops.
Xoops is perfect system for me. I like xoops but 1 years ago xoops-tr.com visitors daily 30-50 persons. Now is most 350 visited.
but All persons asking new good themes the same Joomla.
b.heyula is working different changing themes. Heyula is perfect man in Xoops Turkey. He is Helping all times.
Its what the client wanted and even tho its similar, design was created from scratch based on client's requirements thus is not a port and even tho it looks so similar, all the colors were chosen so they will be different from what you showed me.
Then again, I don't have to prove myself in front of a thief ;)
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@hacamat no one has problems with porting themes and templates to xoops. who said that? the problem starts when a untalented thief claims that this is his work! so what I see here is that turkish xoopsers and the offical turkish xoops supports stealing! thanks to that community.
@heyula are you blind?
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My dream template account informaions;
finished this topic.
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wow, I am so happy for you that you have an account. WOW does heyula also have an account or is the turkish xoops community sharing one account?
the thing is that he claims that he designed the theme! see the footer of the theme. and then take a look at all ported themes at turkish xoops. there he also claims that he is the designer of all themes. Download this theme. Then take a look at the footer:
and guess what, he didn't design this theme. he only puts some smarty code in a already finished theme. do you understand?
and the real designer desevers at least the credits in the footer. where is the problem to put something like "Designed by real designer. Ported to xoops by heyula." in the footer?
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In my opinion this is unnecessary argument for the xoops.
As I understand there is one problem.
This expression "designed by Heyula"
is making you angry. If the real designer at the the credits in the footer.. everything is fine..
heyula always share his works with us.He didnt want any reveneu for his works.Therefore he hasn't any pelfs.
in xoops-themes you ask the people if you want this theme..I can convert it to xoops. But it's cost 49€
What is the different , you write the designer name in the credits and get 49 € What did heyula? , he write own name as a designer but he offers us it free..
If heyula make an unlawful act , we can warn him.If he do it again , we can warm him again.Because he does it to us , to xoops users.
Let's hurt heyula , he give up xoops. then what we'll do.. we pay 49€ and we can get beatiful xoops themes.this is not my dream so sorry.
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the real designer at the the credits in the footer.. everything is fine..
yes, then everything would be fine. I do not know why this is so hard to understand?
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What is the different , you write the designer name in the credits and get 49 € What did heyula? , he write own name as a designer but he offers us it free..
there is a big difference. First heyula is a thief when he does it! he steals someones work. do you understand it so far? do you not have private property in turkey? I do not think so.
what I am doing is promoting a service! I do not release stuff in my name and I do not make a thief of me! why should I explain you what I am doing on my private site?? I feel really sorry for you if you do not see the difference between these 2 things
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oh I forgot Quote:
Let's hurt heyula , he give up xoops. then what we'll do.. we pay 49€ and we can get beatiful xoops themes.this is not my dream so sorry.
yeah your big dream is stealing or let heyula steal lol
there are a couple of designers who port themes and templates to xoops and there have never been problems with them.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
As I say , if he do unlawful thing we can warn him. If he did something worng. He did it for the xoops users not himself.
I dont believe your discussion is for Xoops or for Xoops user... If so , there is one thing to do.Warn him.
Now we can wait free beatiful themes , with the real designer at the the credits in the footer I think..
My dream isn't about stolen themes , my dream is about beatiful free xoops themes.
@heyula
Please dont write your own name like a designer if you didn't designed.
In my opininon the conversition over..
have a nice day
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this is all it was about, it was a warning. But he was warned 5 times before so I do not think that something will change ....
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Now we can wait free beatiful themes , with the real designer at the the credits in the footer I think..
You got it.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
I buy the book, thus I enter into the licence agreement that I will not allow to the friend to read, I will not tear it, and I will hold in packing.
You soon will become crazy with the licence agreements. People! Come round!
Always was so: the Person has bought goods, and it has the right to do with it that wants. He goods has bought, and it has passed in its property. You think differently? For this reason in the world crisis. You sell one goods of 1000 times, and thus accuse others.
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I buy the book, thus I enter into the licence agreement that I will not allow to the friend to read, I will not tear it, and I will hold in packing. You soon will become crazy with the licence agreements.
wow that's really wise, you socrates
but maybe you should really read a book or at least all comments (you may want to know what we are discussing about) before writing such wisecracking stories.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
I attentively read comments. English I own very badly, probably have not correctly expressed thought. I will try differently. Have bought your theme, and the buyer has the right to do to change this theme. As the goods bought by the buyer, are its property. He did not pay money for rent. He has bought it for ever. If you do not agree, show your rights to this theme.
You may not claim that you designed our templates.
If you buy something and agree to the license, you need to follow it, or you don't buy it.
@ ALL participants of this discussion:
We need to stay calm and address issues at hand, which is the template itself. Heyula proved that he purchased it, so the only issue is the statement "Design by". He's been notified to change it, and now his job is to do it, so he is not in violation of the license.
Please refrain from emotional outbursts, name calling, etc. on the forums, as they violate our Terms of Use. Let's stick to the facts and issues, and let the XOOPS Council handle any complaints and violations.
Let's move on!
Thank you!
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If you have started polemic with licences: Quote:
a) MODIFICATIONS You are authorized to make any necessary modification(s) to our products to fit your purposes.
You have allowed to make changes. There are contradictions between points
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@MACTEP thanks...
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You have allowed to make changes. There are contradictions between points
There is no contradiction! The license is very clear - you can do all necessary changes except claiming that it is your design.
Think about this way: you buy a book and you can do anything that you want - you can read it, you can throw it away, you can use it as a support for your table, etc., but you can not publish it under your name and claim that you're the author.
If you want to continue discussion or copyrights and licenses, please open a new topic on the Forums.
Just FYI - the license gives you right no modify the template anyway you want.
Therefore, it is not required that you place a link to "Dreamtemplates.com" or state that the template is from them. So you can remove that link, if you want and you're still OK.
The only thing that you cannot do is use the "Design by Heyula" because then you would be violating the license.
Instead, you can place statements like this:
* Content copyright: Heyula * Website management: by Huyla * Website: by Heyula * Copyright: 2011 Heyula. All other copyrights are held by their respective owners (assuming that they gave you the right to use their creations on your Website).
This way you're clear what you're referring to.
Copyrights and licenses can be very tricky, so it's always better to ask if in doubt.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
It agree with Mamba, but: Dreamtemplates too has no right to establish reference Dreamtemplates to sold design as advertising should be paid, and Dreamtemplates taking an opportunity advertises itself for money of the buyer.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
@MACTEP I don't think you understand copyright at all. You don't BUY the THEME, you BUY a LICENSE to USE the theme.
You don't get ownership of the theme unless you buy the unique version. So they have all rights to demand a copyright url on that theme. Same principes as vBulletin demanding a fee to remove the copyright text: you don't OWN it, you get a license to use it.
That license can give you rights, but also take rights from you. If they say you should keep a link to their site, you really need to do that. If you buy Windows, you don't buy it. You buy a license to use the software: you don't get the right to access the source code and you certainly don't get the right to modify the code to remove all references to Windows. Same idea here, but you receive the source here.
A more opensource example is SMF. You need to put a copyright notice on your forum or it simply will stop working. That's the same idea, even though you don't buy anything.
What Heyula did here is claim that he made it himself. He didn't and the license of the theme forbid that, so it's against the law.
Re: Xoops Hocasi
You want to tell that for "Unique Price: USD 2770.00" I will buy only the licence? Yes, business at you is put in a big way.
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@master I really do not know why you want to discuss about the licence. Go to http://www.dreamtemplate.com and read the licence. If you like it then buy a membership and if not then keep away from that site.
If you do not understand the licence than keep also away from that site, because you have to confirm that you have read and understood the licence before purchasing the membership