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Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

tom Published 12/04/2007 0:00 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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Now the XOOPS community is moving faster towards a better open source future.

DJ, do you mean your going to let it be open?

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EPC, Inc.
Due to changes in EPC's business interests, the XOOPS Project Council started seeking alternative hosting for the last couple of months.

DJ that wasn't you that started to seek alternatives that was the foundation, you just screwed thing up afterwards, as we could of had this site on the new servers months ago.

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They have provided the XOOPS Project with a dedicated server at 50% discount.
The cost of this has been paid by the XOOPS Project Council with their own donation.

So all this and you wasted the money spent on new servers, you already had new servers.

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The XOOPS Council was created to help guide towards a better open source future, it aims are to combine the efforts from all different contributors, by any means possible.

DJ are you talking out of your back wind pipe?

You just pee all over everyone's work and contributions, you disrespect people with your behaviour and actions, I very much doubt you could combine anything.

Your loosing core developers because you treat them like crap, your loosing valuable contributors because you either walk all over their work or ignore then outstanding efforts. You treated the people that care about XOOPS like crap.

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(2) Continuing and formulating the sites redesigning, led by the XOOPS Theme Design Team.

Why was the design not ready for opening, you've had months to prepare.

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(3) Clarifying XOOPS documentation by combining xoops.org documents with the existing community docs and wiki sites. This will be continued and maintained by the documentation team and communities support.

Ohh let me translate, your leeching others work, bringing it into your own DJ team, and will you be taking credit sir or will you do the honourable thing for a change?

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XOOPS Project Council

You made a typo:

DJ Project Council.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Will_H Published 12/04/2007 0:57 Friend of XOOPS Joined 10/10/2004 Comments 1786

So is the site actually open now?

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

smart2 Published 12/04/2007 1:12 Not too shy to talk Joined 01/19/2007 Comments 129

Great to see XOOPS moving.
Thanks for the hard job done.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

pacho Published 12/04/2007 4:39 Quite a regular Joined 06/07/2005 Comments 235

This process has been hard and very awaited for the community. I wish to see more great news and feel secure browsing this project.
Congratulations and go ahead!

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Shine Published 12/04/2007 8:25 Just can't stay away Joined 07/22/2002 Comments 822

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4) Improved XOOPS repositories by combining the existing xoops.org repositories (core, module and theme) with the module dev.xoops.org and the Sourceforge repository.
A repository team will maintain this centralized repository to provide XOOPS with an organized and up to date resource. A new repository module will be developed to help with better module information synchronization.
The current module development site needs maintenance and will need fixing. A development guide team will take responsibility of rebuilding dev.xoops.org, with the team members consisting of core development, third party module developers, theme designers and contributors.

Then Why in the world has the block: 'Recent downloads'has been made visible on the mainpage, if the repository has not been updated and a lot of module links aren't working?
B.t.w, the above quoted lines are very old news. Lot of ppl wanted to help out to fix this section the last couple of 12+ months.... Because nothing has happened finally xoopsaddons was created.
It looks like we love to reinvent/redo the wheel again and again.
And euhm,...where is the new xoops.org theme?
Where is the block: recent comments?

I am sorry, but I feel somewhat angry and call, it disappointed.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

web-M Published 12/04/2007 12:08 Just popping in Joined 01/02/2006 Comments 100

Does this all mean that the XOOPS.org website is not hosted at the servers of the foundation?

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

tom Published 12/04/2007 12:57 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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I am sorry, but I feel somewhat angry and call, it disappointed.

Ditto, I feel the same.

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Does this all mean that the XOOPS.org website is not hosted at the servers of the foundation?

Yes that's what it means, so all the XOOPSers whom donated to this project have had their money wasted, thanks to DJ.

He likes to waste peoples times, effort and now money.

You could say he also Stole all the data too.............. as they are not on XOOPS Servers, their on his own.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

debianus Published 12/04/2007 14:30 Not too shy to talk Joined 12/17/2006 Comments 179

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However dev.xoops.org contents are not able to restore due to lack of adequate backups

What is "contents"?. I believe that the site can not open again now, but the files must be accesibles in a repository.
It is the work of a lot or people for long time ago and the xoopers need the files. It is not acceptable that situation.

About "What's Next?", the Proposal Team must have outputs this month. Then, why all these empty desires?. Nothing will be done (or must not be done) and if anything is done, what if it is against the outputs of Proposal Team?.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

btesec Published 12/04/2007 15:01 Friend of XOOPS Joined 02/20/2007 Comments 623

Well well,
It's great to see the site back, I visit the XOOPS site everyday since 1 1/2 years ago. I really like to open source idea. We don't have to go far to look for good and productive open source similar projects which attract financing, openads is a good example. Look at Mambo CMS they just did major moves to keep the project as open as possible.

Xoops has the ability to attract investments since a lost of orgs and companies use it. I think is reaching a mature state. Ideas like enabling users (eg. companies) to generate financial income would of automatically open the streams of donations in order to continue with its development.

Marketing is the other idea.

Enabling users to easily find packages to create eg. social sites, for example if I want to create a social like site having a list of the relevant production ready and up-to-date modules is a lot easier than spending months to locate good functionality modules. It like having your hands without the fingers. It's your fingers that make your arm usefull and efficient, right.

And naturally their are a lot of people who just like developing and debugging which is the backbone of this project of course.

Like in any project their are challenges which can always be overcomed.

So friends this is my two cents here, thumbs up. Get ready.... Go ahead with the project.

BTESEC

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Mamba Published 12/04/2007 15:25 Moderator Joined 04/23/2004 Comments 11409

Finally the wait is over!

It seems like the new Website is faster than the old one, and hopefully it will stay that way.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

tom Published 12/04/2007 16:00 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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It seems like the new Website is faster than the old one, and hopefully it will stay that way.

Many of us keep getting 500 server errors and time outs.

It's been reported so hopefully it should be fixed shortly.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Marco Published 12/04/2007 20:44 Updated 12/04/2007 21:54 Home away from home Joined 03/15/2004 Comments 1256

thanks indeed to those who put huge efforts into that big change during many days.
A big special thanks to Ono. A project that doesn't respect its founder is a dead project.

About all of us : it's up to us to slow down self- esteem and to begin a new start with sage behavior.

We have plenty of core dev talents : Minahito, Ono, DJ, Predator, Catz, Mith, Skalpa, DaveL, etc.
We have plenty of mod dev talents
We have plenty of theme dev talents
We have plenty of people willing to contribute
We have plenty of brilliant & experimented people to invite to come in
We have already great visions : the modularity of the XOOPS Cube concept, some vision about XOOPS CMS evolution, the willing to act as professionals.
Let's go back to our essence, let's go back to minimalism, let's go back to security, let's go back to the step by step approach, let's go back to the out of the box concept, let's make XOOPS more modular, let's focus on php5/6, let's move on !

More than yesterday, it's time to write our Community & Project Manifesto, to start the armistice, to apologize for those who made errors, and the let all of us to imagine the project's future.

It's up to us to grow up, away from non transparent money considerations, and private clubs attitudes, and close to true open source, team work, and knowledge sharing.
For maturity, innovation, for the interests of all, for the project, for Open Source.

marco

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

BlueStocking Published 12/04/2007 21:44 Home away from home Joined 02/16/2007 Comments 1191

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About all of us : it's up to us to slow down self- esteem and to begin a new start with sage behavior.

We have plenty of core dev talents : Minahito, Ono, DJ, Predator, Catz, Mith, Skalpa, DaveL, etc.
We have plenty of mod dev talents
We have plenty of theme dev talents
We have plenty of people willing to contribute
We have plenty of brilliant & experimented people to invite to come in
We have already great visions : the modularity of the XOOPS Cube concept, some vision about XOOPS CMS evolution, the willing to act as professionals.
Let's go back to our essence, let's go back to minimalism, let's go back to security, let's go back to the step by step approach, let's go back to the out of the box concept, let's make XOOPS more modular, let's focus on php5/6, let's move on !

Now that is a motivational speach I can appreciate.

and it probably wasn't even meant for me...

BS

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

BlueStocking Published 12/04/2007 21:48 Home away from home Joined 02/16/2007 Comments 1191

Debanius,
I have volunteered to do what I can to restore the files manually... when the database becomes available in the next couple of days.

maybe we can find a way to work together to achieve restoring the files.

BS

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Marco Published 12/04/2007 21:52 Home away from home Joined 03/15/2004 Comments 1256

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and it probably wasn't even meant for me...

not so sure !

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

phppp Published 12/05/2007 4:00 XOOPS Contributor Joined 01/25/2004 Comments 2857

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Many of us keep getting 500 server errors and time outs.

It's been reported so hopefully it should be fixed shortly.

Yes.
The server is configured differently from old server.
It might take a few more days for server admins to tune.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

tom Published 12/05/2007 5:06 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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Yes.
The server is configured differently from old server.
It might take a few more days for server admins to tune.

Ohh, shouldn't this of been done thoroughly first with a test version, before moving a heavily use production site over?

I know it was done on the project servers that XOOPS was originally supposed to be moved too, was it done on your private servers?

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

Mamba Published 12/05/2007 11:29 Moderator Joined 04/23/2004 Comments 11409

Tom,
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Ohh, shouldn't this of been done thoroughly first with a test version, before moving a heavily use production site over?

I know it was done on the project servers that XOOPS was originally supposed to be moved too, was it done on your private servers?

You proclaimed on XOOPSinfo that it's time to move on. I hope, you'll follow the same here.

Let's not make the debates/disagreements personal. The XOOPSInfo Code of Conduct should be applied over here too, incl. flaming and personal attacks.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

tom Published 12/05/2007 13:13 Updated 12/05/2007 13:17 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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You proclaimed on XOOPSinfo that it's time to move on. I hope, you'll follow the same here.

Let's not make the debates/disagreements personal. The XOOPSInfo Code of Conduct should be applied over here too, incl. flaming and personal attacks.

what's up can't DJ talk for himself, are you his mouth now. My issues with DJ are that 'With Him' he chooses to ignore me privately so I'll make them public until he acknowledges and apologises.

And here is what was stated on XI:

Madfish:
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This is just a suggestion, but perhaps posts about xoops.org management issues should be posted on xoops.org, where they may be seen by the appropriate people.

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Yes your right, sorry.

XI is for support, no more posts from me about management issues, I'm ready to move on from this.

So yes he's right those questions should be made here, XI is for support, so I'll move on.

Ok so lets break this down further for you

XI = Support
Because of that management issues should not be posted there = I will stop posting them there and move on.

I'm here, I've moved on.

I'm not making them personal, you can't make something personal that has already been done and he already did that, but if I make them personal against you or crap on you, or treat your work with disrespect and ignore what you do, then sack you for no reason at all with out even telling you or letting you know, then ignore all attempts of communication, then once more walking all more work that you or friends and colleagues supporting the community has done, then you have permission to address me.

Until then find something else to amuse yourself with.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

draj Published 12/06/2007 8:31 Quite a regular Joined 06/23/2005 Comments 271

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2) The XOOPS Official Domain name
The XOOPS official websites will consist of the XOOPS core development site at Sourceforge and the main websites using sub-domains of xoops.org.
Two weeks ago Mr. Ono Kazumi (a.k.a. Onokazu, the XOOPS project founder), transferred xoops.org DNS to Taiwen Jiang (a.k.a. phppp, the XOOPS lead developer). The domain name xoops.org is now pointing to the new XOOPS server.

Its like working with the japanese and chinese nursery. Funny part of the story is that xoopsers from other parts of the world do not recognise what is the problem and remain naive.

Pointing DNS is not enough.

The entire legal responsibility should and MUST remain in the control of XOOPS foundation, i.e. the Registrant _MUST_ also point XOOPS Foundation and not just DNS.

Now it shows following current registrant:

Domain Admin
myWeb Japan
4-23-17 Higashi Ikebukuro
Toshima-ku
TOKYO
170-0013
Japan

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

seventhseal Published 12/10/2007 17:26 Quite a regular Joined 08/07/2004 Comments 253

There are DNS issues - just use one of the free tools out there. xoops.org times out with a failed connection, and http://www.xoops.org gets you where you are going. Maybe this is by design...it may be a name server issue, either way, it should be very easy to fix.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

draj Published 12/11/2007 10:03 Quite a regular Joined 06/23/2005 Comments 271

Hi,
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There are DNS issues - just use one of the free tools out there. xoops.org times out with a failed connection, and http://www.xoops.org gets you where you are going. Maybe this is by design...it may be a name server issue, either way, it should be very easy to fix.

This is a childs game to fix it. I am more than surprised that it has not been fixed yet.

Following is the fix:

Create a .htaccess and insert the following code in it:
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RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www.xoops.org$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://xoops.org/$1 [L,R=301]

This will redirect all the browser calls to www of xoops.org.

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

BlueStocking Published 12/11/2007 15:58 Home away from home Joined 02/16/2007 Comments 1191

I made the change in my bookmarks, works like a charm now...

Fast toooo...
I'm impressed!

BS

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

jimmyx Published 12/13/2007 5:13 Quite a regular Joined 07/18/2007 Comments 338

may i know when will the XOOPS 2018 will be released ?

i've a new site to launch..currently using XOOPS 20171 ...but i think i want to postpone
so i can upgrade to 2018 before my site is launch

Re: Updates on the XOOPS Project as of December 2007

jimmyx Published 12/13/2007 5:15 Quite a regular Joined 07/18/2007 Comments 338

nevermind

from what i've read here...it will be release 72 hours after 9/12
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1885546&forum_id=347994

so it will be anytime soon right ?...

thanks to XOOPS team..keep up the good work

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