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I don't know if it is module related. I was in the preferences trying to clone the default template. Always better to work from a clone and leave default alone. I actually had this issue BEFORE the upgrade but NOBODY offered any help/ advice before about fixing it. As a result of this problem with 1 client and my inability to fix this, I have moved away from XOOPS with new clients cause I cannot risk having another problem that gets ignored. I have learned much but not enough. But now, this client wants a blog installed, which will NOT install, I get a blank page. I'm sure the issues are related. I ran the checksum after installation and fixed what I thought were all the errors. At this point I am at a loss.