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I really think this is true. The key in my estimation is to get a functional organization in place. The issue of who controls the foundation will be reconciled by the fact that a functioning organization will demand that the foundation bow to its will. To fight about this now is somewhat meaningless and simply sparks people's suspicions about others motives, simply because it's "MONEY" we're talking about.

I believe that a project manager should be more associated with a team. A team member is simply defined as someone who has contributed to the team in a specified time period. From that team the community can vote for the "Team Leader / Project Manager". This will give the community representation from 5 to 7 different groups. That group of 5 to 7 gives the yay or nay on initiatives and thus this thing moves forward with the communities interest represented.

In the event we have no consensus or other issue that is not solvable then the "Tie-Breaker" will come into play. Maybe the community votes for this "Tie-breaker / chairperson" from the 5-7 team leaders?

The only way this project will work is if the community gets to participate in the decision making process by having it's elected representatives speak for them. Unfortunately, we do not have a founder or company sponsor that has control of this thing like some other open source projects. I think that is the only way you could have a "One Leader" scenario.

leave the foundation aside for now until there is an organization that can have a unified position to make the appropriate decisions. I personally don't think that the foundation is our biggest worry at this point.

Let's get the low hanging fruit first!

Seth

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An allegation of stealing demands evidence. Can you provide that?

Seth

I absolutely agree that the core developer should not be the project leader and actually one of the reasons I like the proposal that Crip put forward. This has never worked before and not going to work in the future. The community needs to be accountable and the only way to do it is with a proposal like the one Crip put out.

I would happily work on making these proposals functional and usable for the community.

I do, like Crip and prolly everyone else, have a lot going on in my life and would like to work in a forum as well.

Seth

Contact info PM'd to you. Definitely give me a shout if you need to escape for a bit.

Seth

Hey kc0maz,

I think that's awesome that you are headed this way to help. If you need a place to stay, a home cooked meal or wanna go have a beer somewhere after a hard days work let me know.

I am in charge of IT for the company I work for thus the one responsible for emergency communications. The last couple of days have been interesting times trying to coordinate resources to keep the business operating. Anyway, I am one of the few that's back in the office today getting things up and running again. Cleanroom HEPA filters don't do too well with a continuous barrage of ash and smoke much less trying to continue manufacturing processes in 5% humidity!

I assume you are headed to Qualcomm Stadium? It's 5 miles down the road from my house and you are more than welcome to hit us up for anything you need.

Seth

It's important for those of us fortunate enough to have stability in our lives to experience what so many in the world experience on a regular and ongoing basis!

The SD in my username obviously stands for San Diego. Well, the last two days have been hell. Almost 4 years to the day that we lost 1500 homes in my neighborhood we are at it again.

We never thought it would happen again and especially not so soon. Last time, October 2003, many of our friends and neighbors lost everything they owned.

This time we all knew the consequences, we heeded the warnings and packed all of the valuables we could fit in the family car and left when they told us to leave.

There were lessons learned from last time and some very interesting at that. Being that this is Southern California many folks have swimming pools. Everyone in the neighborhood that has pools now puts a big sign on their garage door alerting others that they have a pool and thus a place to put your china, silverware or anything else that can survive a couple days in the water better than it can survive a few minutes in an inferno. We all put vehicles or other large items that we can't take with us out in the street away from the house. It's amazing what we learn from our experiences.

It's kind of interesting to evaluate what it is that you need and truly value...this is the time to find out. Of course the family pictures, the important documents,the family heirlooms, the Sandy Koufax autographed baseball and all of the other easily identifiable things. But, if you still have room then what is it that you really value? My two boys, ages 9 and 11, called me from where they were safely staying to make sure that I loaded their dirtbikes. Of course mom said "let 'em burn". I complied as I usually do after 13 years of marriage. I proceeded to load my 3 laptops into the car as she continued loading clothes, pictures, jewelry and other important items. There are so many things that you look at and say, "I don't want to lose that, this sucks"! But, the car only fits so much. Life and family are so much more important that material things that can be replaced.

We made out fine after being evacuated for 2 days but many of those in the town next to mine didn't this time. We have lost over a thousand homes and have the dubious distinction of having accomplished the biggest movement of people in U.S. history ( I know it's short compared to most of you in the old world), even bigger than hurricane Katrina. 965,000 people looking for a place to go is a strange sight indeed. People were in downtown hotels with kids, dogs, rabbits, birds and everything else they could bring with them. Others were in the high school parking lots with tents, horses and trailers.

Here is a link to a video from Rancho Bernardo which is the neighborhood next to mine - Video

Anyway, just a bit of rambling on my part but it's important to put into perspective what it is that's really important. I hate to use this as a cheesy analogy but at the end of the day you need the community to weather the storm. I believe that XOOPS will weather the storm by being a strong community. That's all.

Seth

From the perspective of not giving away themes for free I would imagine that business/professional themes would make more sense.

If a business were to roll-out an intranet or just a regular site on the net, paying a few hundred dollars for a good theme is nothing.

Out of curiosity, what is your thinking on the cost of a custom theme?

Seth

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Yesh, well so do the Chargers and unfortunately A.J. Smith did not learn the lesson that the Redskins did which is Norv Turner sucks!