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Re: Xoops Censorship
by vamptrix on 2010/6/1 9:59:42

I also find that you can remove them, Michael. It might have been a right thing to do, and it was undoubtedly a good thing to do, but that time is over.

XOOPS and ICMS have parted and all the flaming and trolls have stopped, so it's time to remove them from our banned words. It'll only give people questions about why it's banned and make them delve deeper into XOOPS history, which might not be such a good idea. ;)


I don't think now that we should remove them, after seeing some things (like on Twitter). After seeing what has been posted on this forum by them over the course of year, it seems kinda dumb to remove it. It may have stopped now, but I still see flames and trolls from time to time coming from that side, though not only on x.org (it's not that much more here, because they'll get banned quickly), but rather on other social media like Facebook or Twitter. I don't know wheter it's good to keep it banned, but it's certainly not better to unban them.
Re: Xoops Censorship
by bjuti on 2010/5/31 14:07:55

Quote:
Not at all! In our case it is just a consequence of a spamming behavior.

Originally, ICMS was not banned at all here, as you can see from this post from April 2008:


I understand. Now icms have it's own way, so you can delete word bans.
Re: Xoops Censorship
by luciorota on 2010/5/31 13:25:02

Please... Let's commit
it's the only way we have to grow on...

no more blah blah and misunderstand...

Please... show us the way... the right way... next milestones...

I'm working on:
xoops editors
xoops new filemanager
xoops icon system...
...

You are working on???

TOGETHER WE CAN, ALONE NOT
Re: Xoops Censorship
by Mamba on 2010/5/31 10:45:07

Quote:
Censorship is something that someone do when he is in state of fear.

Not at all! In our case it is just a consequence of a spamming behavior.

Originally, ICMS was not banned at all here, as you can see from this post from April 2008:

https://xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=286106#forumpost286106

But we've realized that ICMS people were here to promote ICMS, to lure our users and developers, and to cause trouble by "throwing more wood to the fire":

https://xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=286178#forumpost286178

First, we've edited the posts.

When this didn't stop, we've banned the users.

But they kept coming back - under different names. So finally we had to act and and we've asked them to leave us alone, and censored ICMS name:

https://xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=286220#forumpost286220

As I said before: the only thing what we did was to censor the name due to past violations of our Terms of Use. As we did and will do with any other spam. Nobody can be "above the law". Spam is a spam, regardless of what you promote.

And these few links above are just the tip of the iceberg. You've been here since 2009 so you don't know the whole story, but as you can see from few other comments in this thread, there are other people who don't want to go back to the fights and useless discussions we had in the past.

If the situation changes in the future, we will be glad to re-evaluate it, but recent posts on ICMS and outside of ICMS don't justify it at the moment.

Again, this Website is dedicated to support and promote XOOPS, and we need to stay focused. There are very important releases coming up, there is TONS of work to be done for XOOPS, and we are better off if we focus on making XOOPS the best it can be instead of worrying about other projects.
Re: Xoops Censorship
by bjuti on 2010/5/31 9:53:12

Quote:
And ensuring that XOOPS will not be used to promote somebody's else projects, especially when the projects have been created as a competitor to XOOPS.


What's wrong in competition? That's the thing that moving up the world.

Censorship is something that someone do when he is in state of fear.

Besides that, there is nothing wrong in i-c-m-s. Live and let live. We're just two tribes speaking mostly the same language. We should be friends.

Or maybe this is the begining of The Great Firewall of Xoops?

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