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Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

script_fu Published 10/01/2007 23:56 Friend of XOOPS Joined 12/27/2002 Comments 1494

Bravo!!! We have progress...

Thank you Herko

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

damaster Published 10/02/2007 2:43 Updated 10/02/2007 3:18 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

@ the most ashamed Foundation of open source history!

3 years for 3 poor pdf ? is that a joke?

Why do you refer to "The French Connection" that is associated to the scheme through which the drug heroin was smuggled from Turkey to France and to the United States?

Why Pascal still behind his nickname Skalpa?
Same for David?

How can you fill a police report against Mikhail for a a domain that belong to Onokazu the founder of XOOPS and XOOPS Cube? Victims of plagiarism.

Why do you spend donations on useless domains and 8'650 € = 12,305.46 USD on trademark registration for an open source project supposed to be community-driven?

Why do you play the business men with project cash and donations?
Why to capitalize such open source project that belongs to everyone?
Is that possible to evaluate the consequences of your cupidity? The loss for the project, companies, individuals, and all the communities around the world?

Where are the bills of all that expenses for the promised new server and handling contract fees?
When you promise a report, was that a joke?
Or do you still thinking people here are all stupid?

Was all that Foundation activity useful for the project?
Or did it divide the community and made developers leave?

What the community can expect after three years of such bad management ?

(+.+)(-.-)(_ _) ..zzZZ

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Herko Published 10/02/2007 4:29 XOOPS is my life! Joined 02/04/2002 Comments 4238

@Damaster:

bleh. That about sums it all up for you.

Herko

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

NovaSmart Published 10/02/2007 4:46 Module Developer Joined 06/01/2007 Comments 158

Damaster... herko already deliver what he promise. We should praise his hard work. Don't simply attack him. Maybe a few thing miss up, but give him some time to correct the this.

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How can you fill a police report against Mikhail for a a domain that belong to Onokazu the founder of XOOPS and XOOPS Cube? Victims of plagiarism.

Maybe its time for XOOPS foundation to get the ownership for this domain. This is community driven, and it should belong to community. It shouldn't own by personal. Onokazu already left XOOPS and it should stop there (I still respect him as a XOOPS founder).

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Why Pascal still behind his nickname Skalpa?
Same for David?

I think this is not relevant at all. They had their right to protect their full name. If you doubt about anything, go to legal.

For Herko... thanks a lot. I really appreciate your hard work.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

hervet Published 10/02/2007 6:56 Updated 10/02/2007 9:37 Friend of XOOPS Joined 11/04/2003 Comments 2267

NovaSmart wrote :
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We should praise his hard work

No, we should pray that the foundation never ask us some royalties because we are (all) using the XOOPS name
:--))))))))))

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Catzwolf Published 10/02/2007 7:09 Updated 10/02/2007 7:11 Home away from home Joined 09/30/2007 Comments 1392

While I applaud the latest step from Herko I believe that this should have been done years ago and not done through persuation. I do like the look of the site, I believe that it would be worthy of replacing this #OOPS# awful design on this domain.

@Novasmart: I would like to correct you on one small detail. Ono did not leave on his own accord, he was pushed out the door by Skalpa, Mithy and Herko, please read the sourceforge forums for XOOPS if you wish to learn more.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Chappy Published 10/02/2007 7:21 Updated 10/02/2007 7:23 Friend of XOOPS Joined 12/14/2002 Comments 456

What an awesome development! I was excited to see this progress...

Splendid, just splendid.

I really enjoyed reading the history of xoops. I have been around a good bit of time since 2003. It was really cool to get a better grasp of the history. And, incidentally, I thought the history was done with a good deal of equanimity and fairness.

Truly a breath of fresh air...

By the way, just made a tiny contribution on the new site. Cool!

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

jayjay Published 10/02/2007 8:27 Updated 10/02/2007 8:29 Not too shy to talk Joined 09/10/2003 Comments 175

Great development!

I hope this will stop the endless discussion about finances so that we can focus on what really matters: coding.

Thank you Herko!

PS: I'm writing this in ignore-mode (cfr. boring 2nd post )

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

damaster Published 10/02/2007 8:31 Updated 10/02/2007 8:36 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

Alike Apache Foundation has reported,
there's no legal/administrative extracts!?

@novasmart

I see...
Outsourcing to countries that exploit cheap labor —a practice which has a long and sordid history — appears to be the corporate wave of the future.
Is that ethically right? And a contribute to equitable treatment of all citizens?

It just confirm that Onokazu should keep the domain. At least it will be and better hands. That don't try to manipulate xoops.org community. Or soon everyone will have to pay the foundation or smart companies to use XOOPS related stuff.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

frankblack Published 10/02/2007 9:07 Updated 10/02/2007 9:08 Just can't stay away Joined 06/13/2005 Comments 830

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I see...
Outsourcing to countries that exploit cheap labor —a practice which has a long and sordid history — appears to be the corporate wave of the future.
Is that ethically right? And a contribute to equitable treatment of all citizens?

LOL! Brilliant argument! Maybe we should outsource to - hm - Liechtenstein. Haven't heard anything bad about them lately, but this could be a lack of historic knowledge.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

marcan Published 10/02/2007 12:23 Just can't stay away Joined 10/08/2003 Comments 824

Hi,

I am very happy to see that most of you are happy with the work done so far on the Foundation site. It is only start, I agree, but it's a rather good start !

Chappy said :
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I really enjoyed reading the history of xoops. I have been around a good bit of time since 2003. It was really cool to get a better grasp of the history. And, incidentally, I thought the history was done with a good deal of equanimity and fairness.

We need to thank Horacio Salazar for this. He wrote all the pages of the About XOOPS section. And it is indeed, a marvelous work !

Cheers !

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

JMorris Published 10/02/2007 14:59 XOOPS is my life! Joined 04/11/2004 Comments 2722

Good job guys!

[size=xx-small]:: walks away mubling something about trolls and enemas ::[/size]

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Marco Published 10/02/2007 17:32 Updated 10/02/2007 17:43 Home away from home Joined 03/15/2004 Comments 1256

well, we got it, after 2 years of hard asking ! what if we hadn't asked for it ?

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While I applaud the latest step from Herko I believe that this should have been done years ago and not done through persuation. I do like the look of the site, I believe that it would be worthy of replacing this #OOPS# awful design on this domain.

indeed

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@Novasmart: I would like to correct you on one small detail. Ono did not leave on his own accord, he was pushed out the door by Skalpa, Mithy and Herko, please read the sourceforge forums for XOOPS if you wish to learn more.

Right. And for what purpose? Another leave (skalpa's one) ?
anyway, that's strange XOOPS life.

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I hope this will stop the endless discussion about finances so that we can focus on what really matters: coding.

well, you call this paper Financial Statement ?

it's a joke? Writing a line, adding a number is definitely not the good way to make financial statements. Where is jmorris retribution, 2007? why xoops.com (owner: herko) is not in not in
the domain list? why is xoops.nl in the list, why not all the others local support websites domains ? where is the annual balance sheet, and the income statement? where are voting results within the foundation?
sorry guys, that's definitely not serious. May i audit it ?

lies one day, lies allways
marco, CPA

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

damaster Published 10/02/2007 17:46 Updated 10/02/2007 18:33 Just can't stay away Joined 05/11/2003 Comments 556

Time to take a screen shot and you did it
(quite strange nobody reacts to this report)

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Why not support local sites instead all these useless addons domains?

The last team couldn't even manage the few they promise... 'very soon !'
Maybe they still 'working on it' After all these years it's a normal way
to show how they aim to be 'professionally' credible...oops!

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

web-M Published 10/02/2007 20:28 Just popping in Joined 01/02/2006 Comments 100

I will thank the foundation board for the work they did. I think you guys are doing a good job for the future of XOOPS in it's total.

I'm a little sad that it are some of the same people as always who take this news as a starting point to complain about the past. I hope some day we all can look forward and work at the future of XOOPS

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Marco Published 10/02/2007 20:41 Updated 10/02/2007 20:44 Home away from home Joined 03/15/2004 Comments 1256

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I'm a little sad that it are some of the same people as always who take this news as a starting point to complain about the past. I hope some day we all can look forward and work at the future of XOOPS

well, complaining is definitevely not a goal. But i'm bored with the foundation "as is" attitude. Seems they consider the community only as a cash machine,and are surfing on community credulity. it's still time to be transparent. opacity is not the best friend of open source.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

marcan Published 10/02/2007 21:02 Just can't stay away Joined 10/08/2003 Comments 824

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it's still time to be transparent. opacity is not the best friend of open source.

And we are getting there

. Certainly you cannot deny that this was a very good step in the good direction.

Perhaps there are some improvement to make and the Foundation will make those. If some important data is missing, they will be made public. I'm sure we will always be able to count on you for reminding us the thing we might have forgot

.

Cheers !

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

menochi Published 10/02/2007 22:36 Friend of XOOPS Joined 12/28/2003 Comments 259

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This site will allow you to contact the XOOPS Foundation directly: in order to request support for XOOPS related projects (liaison, conferences, exhibitions, publicity, documentation, representation, and more).

That was exact which we discussed some years and month ago. Thank you Herko. I hope that the majority in the Comunity take this opportunity to make XOOPS a first-class and successful OPEN SOURCE project.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

tom Published 10/03/2007 0:32 Updated 10/03/2007 0:36 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/21/2002 Comments 1359

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:: walks away mubling something about trolls and enemas ::

James please don't complement him.

damister have you always been a twat or or does it take special practice, just wondering as your rather good at it.

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What the community can expect after three years of such bad management ?

I'd expect you to still be banned for being a d**k

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Was all that Foundation activity useful for the project?
Or did it divide the community and made developers leave?

We could say the same of you, by any chance you rehursing this in a mirror?

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Where are the bills of all that expenses for the promised new server and handling contract fees?
When you promise a report, was that a joke?
Or do you still thinking people here are all stupid?

I took you as being an intelligent man, sorry my mistake. Remember you scared the committee people away making it illegal for Herko along to publish a report.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of your questions.

Notice though I answered your questions backwards to help you better understand my answers

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Now if you quite finished trying to ruin peoples lives again, perhaps we can move on.

As I've stated before, I've not always agreed with the decisions and choices made by Herko or the team that had been at his side, however those paths were chosen and these people have walked it, for some bit in solitude.

They are now trying to right the wrongs, correct the paths and move forward.

I see two options there, you either swallow your pride and help them along, or you do as Damisters doing and continue to try and annihilate people and the XOOPS projects.

His purpose here is to disrupt and deter people.

We've all had our grievances, and we've all been annoyed, and we can all try to help.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

BlueStocking Published 10/03/2007 2:15 Home away from home Joined 02/16/2007 Comments 1191

When do you expect to get a link on the sidebar, or is this just another news item that will become a part of the archives?

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

Will_H Published 10/03/2007 3:06 Friend of XOOPS Joined 10/10/2004 Comments 1786

Cool, glad to see progressive steps around here again!

Thanks,

@BS, I think xoops.org should adopt the xoopsinfo sidebar.

Re: Opening of the XOOPS Foundation official web site!

snow77 Published 10/03/2007 4:51 Updated 10/03/2007 5:18 Just can't stay away Joined 07/23/2003 Comments 864

Nice site and content structure it's good to know information like this is publicly available.
Thank you Foundation Members for the support given to xoopsinfo, xoopswiki , xoopsaddons, and xoopsdemo, work on the XOOPS servers and other administrative tasks. The community counts with a valuable service and working team, specially now with the Foundations new site where we can all interact in a more open manner.

[size=x-small] just a little sidenote, Quote:

@BS, I think xoops.org should adopt the xoopsinfo sidebar.

@BS, @Will_H, @XOOPS Admin: xoops.org could have been just like = xoopsinfo.com, make xoops.org content archive, and give xoops.org a nice new clean site "mozilla" style. That's just what could have been.[/size]

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movers Published 04/06/2008 2:11 Just popping in Joined 01/12/2005 Comments 5

Posted: 2007/10/3 5:51:01

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snow77 wrote:

Nice site and content structure it's good to know information like this is publicly available.
[size=x-large]Thank you Foundation Members for the support given to xoopsinfo, xoopswiki , xoopsaddons, and xoopsdemo, work on the XOOPS servers and *other administrative* (not commented) taskS$$$ [/size]. The community counts with a valuable service and working team, specially now with the Foundations new site where we can all interact in a more open manner.

Yes, thank you!

Tell us more about the other administrative taskS. Like buy the domains, for example.

And I remember that the domain xoops.com was NOT acquired by Herko. The xoops.com was donated by one xoops.org member for the project. Very easy to confirm this.

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