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Posted by: MithrandirOn 2005/7/9 16:29:14 14317 reads

Earlier today, phppp and I decided that it was best to postpone the release of XOOPS 2.2 for another week.

We know a lot of people are expecting this release and waiting anxiously - even more as the release date approached - and it is with a certain sadness that I am writing this announcement.

The reasons for postponing the release, however, is because we care about you. You, the XOOPS community, deserves a product that we have cared for and tested thoroghly. Not a rushed release with a major flaw somewhere because we wanted to keep the (already delayed) release date.

We want to give you a XOOPS version that functions. One where there are no major flaws that require a new release. One without blatant security holes that must be fixed asap, caused by our desire to release quickly.

We also want to have peace and a quiet time to work on XOOPS 2.4, where we will build on the foundation of XOOPS 2.2.
XOOPS 2.4 development should not be interrupted by bugs and holes discovered, which should have been found in the process we are in right now. XOOPS 2.4 development should be a welldefined and structured development process, leading to a new version released around September 30th, 2005.

For those reasons, I respectfully ask the patient XOOPS community to be just a little more patient with us - and keep reporting bugs in the forums and on SourceForge - so we can make XOOPS 2.2 such a good release as it should be.

Thank you for your support and your understanding.

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Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Gambero[removed] Published 07/09/2005 17:00 Quite a regular Joined 01/13/2005 Comments 393

Sad news, but we understand!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

bocks Published 07/09/2005 17:04 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/06/2002 Comments 41

This means I have to wait another week to receive my belated birthday present...

It's OK though, cause I really want a very secure and stable version of XOOPS for my site...

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

JMorris Published 07/09/2005 17:49 XOOPS is my life! Joined 04/11/2004 Comments 2722

Thanks for the update Mithrandir.

I appreciate and respect the Core Team's decision to place quality above release frequency.

Besides, it's not like you all haven't been firing out new releases pretty frequently for quite some time.

Keep up the great work!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

jdseymour Published 07/09/2005 17:51 Friend of XOOPS Joined 11/11/2004 Comments 3782

I think that is an excellent decision, although I am sure a hard one for a developer to make. This let's me know how much you care for the program. Most developers would rush to a release based on the date alone. Thanks for the thorough tests before release.

One week and a better, more stable and secure release is never too much to ask.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Jyotirmaya Published 07/09/2005 18:18 Not too shy to talk Joined 02/10/2005 Comments 105

a stitch in time.........
wise move

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

artigas Published 07/09/2005 18:23 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2004 Comments 208

Greetings -

Not a problem. Good choice.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Mithrandir Published 07/09/2005 18:31 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

Thanks everyone.

It really was a tough decision to make, because we have already postponed the release one week and I have it installed and it works and everything... but I cannot be sure that everything really does work. There might be some obscure areas that I haven't tested or something that throws an error if you are not the webmaster or something (for example, we are aware of a problem with the registration process, especially if you do not use the activate-by-user type.

I could have worked all day and tonight as well, while phppp would finish the PM module (as much as will be ready for 2.2 - I'm afraid it won't be that much) but without proper testing, we would spend the next month answering the same support requests for people, who would have downloaded the 2.2 release even though we had made a 2.21 release...
So really, it is a quite selfish decision

Your support, however, shows me that we made the right decision.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

carnuke Published 07/09/2005 18:43 Home away from home Joined 11/05/2003 Comments 1955

Thanks Mith for your clear leadership and strong decission making here. You are absolutely right to delay a release, if it means catching those bugs first. This is responsible development and we all respect you for it.

Again, you have our support and if we do catch a few bugs on release, well ... that's part of what open source development is about.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

JimLunsford Published 07/09/2005 18:58 Not too shy to talk Joined 10/26/2004 Comments 191

Hey you are doing something that Microsoft has never done. Trying to give us the best and secure product and not just throwing something out there because you set a deadline.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

jcweb Published 07/09/2005 19:16 Quite a regular Joined 04/25/2005 Comments 253

There is no problem to wait one or two weeks more. I´m happy when the new version is ready to go! Thanks all members from developement for your hard work!

Andy

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

cuckston Published 07/09/2005 19:43 Quite a regular Joined 01/19/2004 Comments 268

Thanks for the update. looking forward to seeing the finished product!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

CiberEspia Published 07/09/2005 21:43 Quite a regular Joined 10/14/2002 Comments 227

if it is by the security we will wait for the necessary time, in the end the quality defines it

We understand and support your decission!!!

xooperman Published 07/09/2005 22:46 Not too shy to talk Joined 05/11/2005 Comments 117

Anyway, i´m still with the 2.09, so...don´t worry for me at least

By the way, will it be in spanish also?

I LOVE XOOPS!!!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Silviotech Published 07/09/2005 23:50 Updated 07/09/2005 23:51 Just popping in Joined 06/18/2004 Comments 36

every wait is sure that will be rewarded, and the one that Xoops Paraná to be useful to help is only to speak

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

malexandria Published 07/10/2005 0:33 Quite a regular Joined 12/23/2001 Comments 281

Take your time and get it right. I've been out of the loop, is 2.2 a new version of XOOPS or is it just another fix release like the last few ones?

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

gecko Published 07/10/2005 2:41 Not too shy to talk Joined 10/11/2004 Comments 152

great work core team
I appreciate the integrity of your release dates and am happy to wait until you feel confident to releas to your own standards.

thanks
Gecko

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Xman04 Published 07/10/2005 4:24 Updated 07/10/2005 4:25 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/12/2004 Comments 180

The XOOPS staff is a true gift to the software/web industry. I applaud your passion for quality and commitment to your user base. Thank you for your honesty and hard work.

I'm very excited about XOOPS 2.2 and beyond!

Dave

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

rowdie Published 07/10/2005 7:07 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

Thank you for this news announcement, Mith. It shows the dedication of the XOOPS team towards quality, of course we support your decision

In my opinion it's not missing target dates that people don't like, it's uncertainty, not knowing what's happening. With this release there has been no uncertainty, the whole process has been open with regular news posts and code availability through the CVS nightly packages... fantastic!

As far as I'm concerned, take as long as you need. I'd much rather have a XOOPS 2.2 that you and phppp consider stable, than something that still has some question marks.

This extra time gives me a chance to try to find bugs too... so I'm happy with extra time as well.

Rowd

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Speed Published 07/10/2005 7:46 Quite a regular Joined 05/18/2004 Comments 310

Could you please repost a link to the nightlies? Thanks in advance!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

rowdie Published 07/10/2005 7:59 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

The nightly build is available from the front page of this site, top right block (under the search block)

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

solo71 Published 07/10/2005 11:21 Module Developer Joined 01/29/2003 Comments 941

@malexandria: XOOPS 2.2 is a very deep revised version, including very expected features.

That is to shorten it:
- enhanced administration
- skinable back office (webmaster oriented and customisable admin)
- reinforcement of key admin functions alike PM messagerie, user forms and block admin, along with groups permissions.

If I had to shorten the changes, I woud say: make XOOPS esier to use and administrate.

We got a meeting (RMLL) in France this week-end, where we met other CMS dev. From all I saw, I can say that XOOPS is one big step ahead, and from far, one with the most brilliant futur.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Society Published 07/10/2005 11:29 Not too shy to talk Joined 01/10/2002 Comments 178

Argh, i finished yesterday my XOOPS 2.1 Theme i hope i can update Today ;) But now i need to wait..

XOOPS ROCKS!!

look my 2.1 theme @ http://relaunch.djnews24.net

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

thebigkk Published 07/10/2005 12:36 Updated 07/10/2005 12:39 Not too shy to talk Joined 10/27/2003 Comments 103

Thanks for the heads up Mith. I think I may be addicted to Xoops. I'm in here (the XOOPS site) every day looking and learning. Cant wait for the new version, but like others, I'd prefer to have to wait a week on the chance that we'll have a stronger package at the end of it.

As others have said, I to commend you on delaying the release in favour of ensuring a more stable package.

Take heart in the knowledge that many XOOPS users appreciate the efforts taken by Mith and the developers.

Once again, thankyou for your efforts and untiring assistance to this group. Much appreciated.

Test the nightly

dheltzel Published 07/10/2005 14:37 Not too shy to talk Joined 01/08/2003 Comments 164

If you have a test site, please download the nightly (link on the front page) and install it. Helping to test with the nightly version does 2 important things:

1) Helps the developers find the more obscure bugs, which are the ones that will vex just a few people (likely you if you find it during your tests of the nightly).

2) Helps you learn the new admin interface. It's clearly better and easier to learn, but if you are accustomed to the 2.0 interface, it won't seem tht way for a while. The learning curve is not steep, but you'll need to climb it eventually, so why not get a head start and do it now?

Xoops 2.2 will be great whe it's out, and you can start to experience it now so you can get the most of out of it later.

Dennis

Re: Test the nightly

krobi Published 07/10/2005 21:13 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

i have just installed the newest nightly build and i get many php warnings.

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Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated - argument passed by value; If you would like to pass it by reference, modify the declaration of [runtime function name](). If you would like to enable call-time pass-by-reference, you can set allow_call_time_pass_reference to true in your INI file. However, future versions may not support this any longer. in e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\kernel\object.php on line 727

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this came above of the content

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Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated - argument passed by value; If you would like to pass it by reference, modify the declaration of [runtime function name](). If you would like to enable call-time pass-by-reference, you can set allow_call_time_pass_reference to true in your INI file. However, future versions may not support this any longer. in e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\kernel\block.php on line 150

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this is in the content-part

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Warning [PHP]: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\kernel\object.php:727) in file e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\include\common.php line 198
Warning [PHP]: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\kernel\object.php:727) in file e:\programme\easyphp1-8\www\xoops2_1_nightly\include\common.php line 198

and this cames after the content-part

and i cant do anything i have tried to enter the administration but all i see are this errors and the new standard theme but no really content

i use php 5.0.3

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Kazinak Published 07/11/2005 12:44 Just popping in Joined 04/19/2005 Comments 8

Two questions:

1. Any good multisite hack with XOOPS 2.2 ?

2. What about compatibility between XOOPS 2.0.10 and XOOPS 2.2 (modules,hacks,themes and etc.) ?

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Cheeze Published 07/11/2005 14:45 Just popping in Joined 11/16/2004 Comments 38

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Take heart in the knowledge that many XOOPS users appreciate the efforts taken by Mith and the developers.

Nothing less than the truth

Thanks again!

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

tedsmith Published 07/11/2005 17:49 Home away from home Joined 06/02/2004 Comments 1151

Bravo Mith.

To repeat what's already been said, but I too would rather wait another week or four if it means a smooth upgrade and no major problems the minute I upgrade. So no pressure from me either.

I think pretty much all Xoopsers realise that testing is better than a faulty piece of software, especially when the guys who make it do it for free!! You take you time.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

pegasus00321 Published 07/11/2005 21:23 Quite a regular Joined 04/29/2005 Comments 339

No problems man, we fully understand

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

JamesSAEP Published 07/11/2005 22:21 Just can't stay away Joined 02/28/2005 Comments 732

Well, you would never be able to work for Microsoft with this mentality of stable and secure...

Glad to hear it! Keep up the good work.

J

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Speed Published 07/12/2005 16:24 Quite a regular Joined 05/18/2004 Comments 310

What is the best way to use existing userbase? At install, point to existing database? Wait until installed and then change in mainfile.php?

Initial questions/observations:

1) Under Extended Profiles: What are the Categories for? How are they used?

2) Under General Settings: I changed the default theme to phpkaox. I submitted the change. On the next page there is the following line at bottom of the Database Updated Successfully message box. This is only immediately after accepting the change and it does not appear again unless I change default themes again.

 Notice [PHP]: Undefined variable: theme_set in file C:Inetpubwwwroothtmltestingmodulessystemadminpreferencesmain.php line 314

3) Private messages area looks great. However, it's essential to be able to choose specific groups to prune.

4) I haven't explored the PM changes deeply yet but it might also be nice to be able to prune by a category like "From Sent PMs and read by recipient" or "Only if read by recipient" or "Only if is system sent Notification".

5) Under System, Preferences, PM Preferences: We can specify the number of messages a user can have in the save box. This number would be nice to have configurable by group. This number should be displayed to the user when they are viewing PMs -- i.e., "Your account allows a maximum of 20 saved PMs. Oldest messages will automatically be deleted first."

6) Under Extended Profile, User: The list of instant messenger ID's is split up. I presume you can change weights to make these appear together but it would be nice to have them that way by default. It's one less thing to edit....

7) Under Extended Profile, Fields: It would be nice to have an option for new fields to be required. It seems that only the username and displayname are currently required and these seem to be hardcoded.

I'll be installing a few modules including the new CBB this week. I'll let you know how those go.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

m0nty Published 07/12/2005 17:41 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

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1) Under Extended Profiles: What are the Categories for? How are they used?

create a category in the profile to add different fields to. ie. music charts.

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7) Under Extended Profile, Fields: It would be nice to have an option for new fields to be required. It seems that only the username and displayname are currently required and these seem to be hardcoded.

seems u haven't actually played around with it!! but once u create a category and then made some new fields u can select them to appear on the registration form..

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Speed Published 07/12/2005 18:40 Quite a regular Joined 05/18/2004 Comments 310

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seems u haven't actually played around with it!! but once u create a category and then made some new fields u can select them to appear on the registration form..

Ahhhhh, so a two step process for configuration. This wasn't very intuitive. It's the first time that that I've encountered a multi-step configuration where one menu leads to another in XOOPS so it threw me for a loop.

Consistency, please.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Coyoteold1 Published 07/12/2005 22:29 Just popping in Joined 06/09/2005 Comments 9

Just wanted to add a "Me too" post in support of your decision to postpone, and your reasons for doing so.

I _rarely_ leap on a new version of any software, especially by commercial vendors, because they so often seem to consider "done quickly" to be preferably to "done properly."

A decision to delay so that the work can be tested and bugfixed _before_ release sounds like a darn good idea to me. : ) Kudos.

Coyote

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

m0nty Published 07/12/2005 23:21 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

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Ahhhhh, so a two step process for configuration. This wasn't very intuitive. It's the first time that that I've encountered a multi-step configuration where one menu leads to another in XOOPS so it threw me for a loop.

actually that might just be me explaining it as a 2 step process, as that's what i did myself when i 1st played with it after mith explained that field name has to be all 1 word with no spaces.

but i don't think you actually have to create a new category to be able to add new fields.. i think u should be able to just create a new field, then in the fields section, u can select the default category and in theory it will appear with the rest.. (i haven't tried it)

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Speed Published 07/13/2005 4:10 Quite a regular Joined 05/18/2004 Comments 310

Yes, you create a field and then you actually edit the field. Two steps. Creating a category would actually be three but it's not necessary.

The only reason I can see for the current setup is that it allows for one standard way of editing both old and new fields alike. Less code. The problem I have is that it's an extra editing step that isn't intuitive as there are a lot of features that aren't visible until the second step (applying to specific groups, requiring the field, etc).

My recommendation is to either collapse all of the items for creating a new field into the initial setup or notify the prospective admin that it is a two step process.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

alitan Published 07/13/2005 9:08 Quite a regular Joined 03/14/2004 Comments 399

The only thing in this new version (2.2 nightly)which is bugging me is the new block management system. The fact that no blcks are shown by default is not a really easy thing for an admin.
perhaps if some blocks such as main menu and others would be automatically installed, it would be a great idea. So if dev can add that feature (not really a feature) that would be great. Also if it is possible take advantage of this blank area under the admin bar and make a XOOPS admin hope page with something in center. that also will be an excellent idea.If you can add a WYSIWYG editor to the core (not that we add manually) that wood be good too.
Thanks dev, as soon as the stable version et released we (persian team) will prepare the lang files + our own date function.
keeep up the good work.

Looking forward to see the next version in september.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

Mithrandir Published 07/13/2005 17:10 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

@Speed: You create a new field and after creation, you are presented with additional fields. It may not be intuitive, but it should be obvious.

@Alitan: I really would like to install certain blocks on installation and will try to put it in there.

Take advantage of the blank area under the admin bar yourself by placing blocks on "admin frontpage"

Wysiwyg editor is there, we just don't use it in the core-provided pages.

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

cotiy Published 07/14/2005 10:24 Just popping in Joined 03/24/2005 Comments 10

期待.................

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

davidl2 Published 07/14/2005 11:13 Updated 07/14/2005 13:10 XOOPS is my life! Joined 05/26/2003 Comments 4843

我非常也被激发。

Re: XOOPS 2.2 postponed for another week

alitan Published 07/14/2005 12:31 Updated 07/14/2005 12:47 Quite a regular Joined 03/14/2004 Comments 399

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@Alitan: I really would like to install certain blocks on installation and will try to put it in there.

Take advantage of the blank area under the admin bar yourself by placing blocks on "admin frontpage"

Wysiwyg editor is there, we just don't use it in the core-provided pages.

thanks for the blocks you are planning to install by default.
as for the admin area, I am already aware of the the feature you you talked about, but what I really meant was graphical. I recently looked into mambo and a couple more CMS and their admin pages are way more graphical. Although I know that XOOPS core team's goals are different than those CMS, and graphical features might take more time to load, but still if you atleast put some graphical blocks it will be great.
Anyway, Thanks alot!

P.S-->
I've recently noticed that the Activation-URL sent by email results in a blank page,though I've not tested this on my own site but I've seen it on one of the other sites.Also there is a problem with drop down menus in admin pages and some go under some other menus in certain pages even when you want to open them some phrases and links will be covered by other menues,thus they are not accessible. I am not sure if someone has reported these bugs, but just wanted to inform you.

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phppp Published 07/14/2005 12:55 XOOPS Contributor Joined 01/25/2004 Comments 2857

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Also there is a problem with drop down menus in admin pages and some go under some other menus in certain pages even when you want to open them some phrases and links will be covered by other menues,thus they are not accessible.

Is the problem existing for all styles or just for "direction:rtl"?
Make it clear to help Mith locate the problem

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m0nty Published 07/14/2005 13:46 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

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am already aware of the the feature you you talked about, but what I really meant was graphical. I recently looked into mambo and a couple more CMS and their admin pages are way more graphical. Although I know that XOOPS core team's goals are different than those CMS, and graphical features might take more time to load, but still if you atleast put some graphical blocks it will be great.
Anyway, Thanks alot!

why does there have to be a need for graphical admin area? the admin area is custom themeable anyway, so any admin theme created is seperate from th user side of the site.

personally i can't see the point of graphical admin area that looks like the dogs b*llox of admin areas when there's only the admin that will see it. i looked at mambo's admin area, and altho it's lovely and graphical it's slow, hard to find ya way around, and well it's slow..

personally i like to go in the admin area, do what i must and then get out and i like it to be as fast as possible and manageable.. graphic content in there is irrelevant.. text menus down the screen is enuff really in my opinion.

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McNaz Published 07/14/2005 14:04 Just can't stay away Joined 04/21/2003 Comments 574

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personally ii can't see the point of graphical admin area that looks like the dogs b*llox of admin areas

I have to agree completely with Monty here. I don't really care if the admin area looks like the GUI from heaven because I guarantee you that this comes at a price... speed. That is the last thing I want to loose when admining my site.

Which is why XOOPS has an excellent admin interface. Minimal and most importantly, _FAST_. I am sure many of us wouldn't like to see that change and trade it in for a prettier looking admin area.

My 2 pennies...

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davidl2 Published 07/14/2005 14:35 XOOPS is my life! Joined 05/26/2003 Comments 4843

With the default theme - the new admin area is less graphical than before - and looks better for it

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Lakota Published 07/14/2005 15:05 Just popping in Joined 01/28/2005 Comments 11

"Community" The best way to describe Xoops! Never before have I found such support for a product. Thanks for such a great product/site/support. I stand 100% behind Xoops! Look Forward to the release of XOOPS 2.2, well worth the wait!

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patchwork Published 07/14/2005 15:07 Just popping in Joined 04/29/2005 Comments 11

Sorry for asking, but have you already reached the "feature freeze" version? That is; version 2.1.2 as stated in the developer roadmap.

That's because I look forward to start the translation to European Portuguese ;)

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