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Posted by: marcanOn 2005/4/1 10:40:37 9617 reads

Hi again fellow Xoopsers

As you finally discovered it, April First can be a tricky day !

I must say I had a little extra fun feeding my son last night, as, each time I got up, I went on xoops.org to see how many fishes I had cathed

Just to be clear : this stunt was the first SmartApril'sFool

Of course I don't intend to stop The SmartFactory's activities ! Now more than ever, I strongly beleive that XOOPS is one of the best CMS and The SmartFactory intend to persue its mission of Making XOOPS Modules Smarter... Everyday !

And for XOOPS Multilanguages, it always have been clear in my mind that it was only a hack, and that it would never be implemented in the core...

I can assure you for starting to know them quite well, Mithrandir and Herko would never have done something like this...

I just spoke with some of you on IM and I now realize, that thispractical joke could have been wrongfully interpreted... And I'm sorry about that... Will you forget me ?

As for the Multilanguage, I can assure you that this is really hight in our priority. The SmartFactory is working on a new version of the ML Hack that will not require any files modification no more.

Moreover, we are also working on a true multilanguage functionnality held directly in the core, usable by any module that want it, and with a real workflow for translators... ANd this will really Rocks !

Long live to XOOPS !

PS : Thanks to Solo, Christian and Fooups from the French Network who are behind this as well !

Cheers !

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karedokx Published 04/01/2005 10:50 Quite a regular Joined 07/01/2004 Comments 319

you got me badly it's been the best april fool day i have ever had!

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terrion Published 04/01/2005 10:53 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/19/2004 Comments 299

I know there's a lot of us out here breathing a huge sigh of relief. Honestly didn't see that one coming...

Hope the SmartFactory is with us always!

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giba Published 04/01/2005 10:54 Updated 04/01/2005 11:34 Just can't stay away Joined 04/26/2003 Comments 638

Congratz Marcan
Look: Faiul Kernel XOOPS or Onokazuo is microsoft

Giba

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jdseymour Published 04/01/2005 10:55 Friend of XOOPS Joined 11/11/2004 Comments 3782

Very, very, very devious April Fools joke Marcan.

Almost evil.

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solo71 Published 04/01/2005 11:09 Module Developer Joined 01/29/2003 Comments 941

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Chappy Published 04/01/2005 11:18 Friend of XOOPS Joined 12/14/2002 Comments 456

Okay, smart guy. So when's your $%**#&@ site going to be back up?

Glad it's not true - huge sigh of relief...

Cute joke

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m0nty Published 04/01/2005 11:30 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

well it's gr8 to hear that :), to be honest before i went to bed earlier today after being awake for 2 days.. i read this and thought.. well it is april 1st, but i still couldn't decide if it was a joke or not.

was very much thought out anyway marcan :P i'm sure the XOOPS community will repay you 1 day along with you aswell Solo for doing so well to make it more believable..

Hats off to ya.. viva la Xoops

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limecity Published 04/01/2005 11:33 Friend of XOOPS Joined 07/06/2003 Comments 1602

LOLOLOLOL

eventhough i realise its april fools day but was still wasn't sure if its a joke. Was rather convinced. ahhahahha Happy April Fools day guys.

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talunceford Published 04/01/2005 12:10 Just can't stay away Joined 08/14/2002 Comments 532

HAHAHA, Haven't had a good laugh like that for a while...... good one Marcan!

Rock on!!

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Jakobo Published 04/01/2005 12:11 Just popping in Joined 12/18/2003 Comments 61

Amusing, but not the kind of thing you want to broadcast to hundreds of rss newsreaders worldwide. At least it gave interesting chatter on the post-nuke boards elsewhere in internet land.

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

rowdie Published 04/01/2005 12:26 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

It must be a cultural thing, but I don't see the joke in using the XOOPS.org site for your personal prank.

Not very 'Smart' at all in my eyes.

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guardian2k1 Published 04/01/2005 13:08 Not too shy to talk Joined 12/23/2004 Comments 114

Lighten up rodie, apart from a joke it also shows what *could* happen. We've become dependant on the XOOPS module community but what would happen if this did happen. Do websites that have these modules have any backup plans?

I have to admit the joke is pretty damn funny but also showed that I need to plan for a worse case scenario.

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limecity Published 04/01/2005 13:27 Friend of XOOPS Joined 07/06/2003 Comments 1602

LOL
it can only happen in xoops. where its a real community. There are time to be serious and there are also time to joke around.

i love xoops.

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JasonMR Published 04/01/2005 13:44 Just can't stay away Joined 06/21/2004 Comments 655

@rowdie: glad someone else feels the same, I'm chocking on that laughter. Reminds me of pranks by the immature, that find it funny to blow up the letter box, with a self-made bomb.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad others can see the joke. I mean, there are people who laugh at Benny Hill, and others that laugh at Stevo, and others get there laughs from the Flying Circus.

XOOPS has a community, but if we are also trying to gain a professional reputation, then I can not see how one can cheer this kind of action.

Jokes and pranks have their place, and they should be chosen in a 'smart' manner. Having this news release on XOOPS.org was anything but smart. Have it on the Smartfactory site, or on your private blog, but here?

Well, time to move on, just 67 minutes, and it will be April the second down here. I just needed to put my support out for rowdies posting.

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marcan Published 04/01/2005 13:46 Just can't stay away Joined 10/08/2003 Comments 824

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it can only happen in xoops. where its a real community. There are time to be serious and there are also time to joke around.

You r absolutely right limecity !

There is so much sadness in the world in general, if we don't laugh from time to time, life would be dawn ugly... We are allowed to not only work all day, each day, each month, all year...

However, even thought I think this april's fool was pretty good, I can conceived that some people don't think the same way, because of cultural, language or other divergences. And to those of you, I'm really sorry. I never had the intention to offend anywone.

So I'll leave humour out for a while and get back to what I do best, development...

Cheers !

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brash Published 04/01/2005 13:50 Friend of XOOPS Joined 04/10/2003 Comments 2206

Heehee, you got me for a few minutes Marcan, nice one .

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solo71 Published 04/01/2005 13:58 Updated 04/01/2005 14:22 Module Developer Joined 01/29/2003 Comments 941

Damn, is the fish a threatened specie on the XOOPS planet ?

EDIT: Just reading all this, I would like to say that Macan is not to be blamed for anything in this story. If there is one person you have to, it's me. I even wrote the message. I even had to convince him to do so. So please, stop blaming him as he is totally innocent in this story. And, on a personnal note, I must say I am quite disappointed by the way you threat him, as he certainly never deserved this.

*note in his personnal book: never ever do any joke on xoops.org anymore*

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giba Published 04/01/2005 14:34 Just can't stay away Joined 04/26/2003 Comments 638

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Poster: solo71 Posted: 2005/4/1 10:58:18

Damn, is the fish a threatened specie on the XOOPS planet ?

EDIT: Just reading all this, I would like to say that Macan is not to be blamed for anything in this story. If there is one person you have to, it's me. I even wrote the message. I even had to convince him to do so. So please, stop blaming him as he is totally innocent in this story. And, on a personnal note, I must say I am quite disappointed by the way you threat him, as he certainly never deserved this.

Good Solo

happy 1st April for all

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

Tandy Published 04/01/2005 14:36 Not too shy to talk Joined 08/11/2003 Comments 110

Marcan:

Here in the states we have a saying:

"You wacky knucklehead!"

Good one!!!

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

marcan Published 04/01/2005 14:45 Just can't stay away Joined 10/08/2003 Comments 824

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I would like to say that Macan is not to be blamed for anything in this story. If there is one person you have to, it's me

I posted it, I take all the responsability

However, we need not to forget that this is an open source community and even though we want to make this project more and more professional, if we take ourselves too seriously, we might woke up one day and realize we don't have any fun anymore.

We are a community and as a community we support each other. We have seen countless times this community gathering up to help other people in crisis period. We also have seen this community share the joy of others in joyfull moments. We are like a familly, we share our fears and our joys, we make jokes, we have fun and we also work hard. We are ALIVE !!! Is that a bad thing ?

Anyway, the incident is closed, let's move on...

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

Clever Published 04/01/2005 14:57 Just popping in Joined 04/24/2004 Comments 81

What a wonderful thing to do, really...
Marcan, you have made us realize how much we love your work and depend on you.
Plus, WHAT WOULD WE DO if you or any of our other wonderful developers threw in the towel...
It is a good wakeup call to everyone and it WAS funny, once the paramedics left...
While all of us sat in horrified disbelief (especially those of us suckered!) you guys were laughing your asses off...
Hats off for taking the time to have a bit of fun and giving most of us a good laugh.
For those NOT amused, I hope that at the very least this was a learning experience. I would guess that you have implemented several of SmartFactorys modules and were numb with the horror of not being able to get them supported...
I am sure once you get your equilibrium back, you will find a small smirk hiding in there somewhere, and perhaps everyone should support the XOOPS developers more often - monetarily, or just with praise... rather than constant demands.
We all appreciate you Marcan, and your awesome talent. I hope you continue to be one of the best developers that XOOPS has for many years to come.
(And I love the fact that you are Canadian, too!)

Warmest regards,
Lisa

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

rowdie Published 04/01/2005 15:14 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

Fine, I'll have my say.

Yes, XOOPS is a community and that community lives in the forums. I have nothing against people making jokes on the forums, it's the abuse of the official XOOPS news channel that I object to. You bring down the credibility of the news system, and yes, you bring down the image of the XOOPS project as a serious contender in the marketplace.

A learning experience? Well yes, I learnt that I can't trust news posted on XOOPS.org. Good joke.

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Clever Published 04/01/2005 15:28 Just popping in Joined 04/24/2004 Comments 81

rowdie...
I can see that you have been irked by the joke, and thats obviously a shame.
I myself let the XOOPS project speak for itself as a wonderfully dynamic and well-coded CMS, and imagine that a large number of users would feel that way too.
One small joke will not magically make the XOOPS News an untrustworthy source. And credibility has been established through years of hard work.
Personally, I would have to say that negative posts have more of a detrimental effect than a simple joke played on current users, since new users may see the negative posts and think twice. Who would want to join a forum where people arent happy, helpful and fun...
We love you too, rowdie. Please smile.

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hsalazar Published 04/01/2005 16:43 Just popping in Joined 02/06/2003 Comments 78

Hey, friends:

Getting out of the shadows for a moment, I urge you to follow Marcan's advice and remember that this project has to do with life, and if there's not some fun in it, well, it'd be a sad life. Cheer up. This will not mean you're less pro; it will mean you're more fun to be around.

Marcan: good joke. I know for sure you probably spend long hours taking care of your kid, and still manage to keep on developing your mods. Must be my age showing, because I can't follow your steps anymore.

Cheers.

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Marco Published 04/01/2005 17:02 Home away from home Joined 03/15/2004 Comments 1256

I can just notice that marcan's original article was deleted....
why ?

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I urge you to follow Marcan's advice and remember that this project has to do with life, and if there's not some fun in it, well, it'd be a sad life

I strongly agree. Let be mature with fin !

marco

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marcan Published 04/01/2005 17:03 Just can't stay away Joined 10/08/2003 Comments 824

Horacio, thank you very much to spread your wisdom here I always listened carefully to any advise you told me in the past. So, earing this from you make me really happy

As for the son, he is now 10 pounds ! Twice the weight he was when he was born ! And every time I look at his cute little angel's face, I feel blessed by life And no matter what happens, I always find time to take care of him, my girlfriend and The SmartFactory

Thanks again !

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pdajunkee Published 04/01/2005 17:28 Just popping in Joined 09/03/2004 Comments 53

Arrghhh... completely not fair, it was March 31 when I read it here at Pacific Standard Time. You had me completely convinced. Nice touch shutting down your web site at the same time.

My anger has been curbed by the fact that you are not going anywhere. Keep up the good work!

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

wcrwcr Published 04/01/2005 17:40 Updated 04/01/2005 17:51 Home away from home Joined 12/12/2003 Comments 1114

@ marcan

That was a good one......... (but i must confess that I almost know for shure that were only a joke)

Come on people.......where are your sense of humor?

Laughing somentimes is very good for health

Long live to smartfactory

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

Mamba Published 04/01/2005 17:46 Moderator Joined 04/23/2004 Comments 11409

I was crossing my fingers that it is only a joke, but I did almost have a heart attack when I read it for the first time!

I liked the joke, but I agree with others that if dissiminated via RSS it could be used in the wrong way by other people, incl. our competition. So lesson learned - be careful where and how you post it.

OK, now back to work all! Let's get the ML into the core SOON

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Bogus Published 04/01/2005 17:49 Just popping in Joined 01/31/2005 Comments 3

Heya ;D

That was very funny Joke ;D

Greetings

Bogus

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m0nty Published 04/01/2005 18:06 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

it was a good joke though, despite what some may think.. i don't think marcan abused the News system really.. the whole idea of april fools and practical jokes is that they are made to be believable, and making people believe it is the next step, the News system made it all the more believable.. of course with all practical jokes, the joker should always make it clear after the joke has passed that it was just a joke and nothin more :) of which marcan did admirably if not sooner than he probably wanted to due to the comments being made..

jokes are jokes and as long as they do no harm or damage to people then that's fine :) and this joke didn't do any harm :)

don't let the criticism discourage you having fun, fun is good :) a happy workplace full of people having fun is a lot better than a workplace full of seriousness and strict routines and non happy people, and is more productive in my experience, it breaks the ice as to speak.. and a workplace that is seen to be having fun but at the same time getting the job done always gets a 2nd look by the general public in my opinion

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fooups Published 04/01/2005 18:17 Just popping in Joined 01/12/2004 Comments 82

Like Solo, I would like to say that Marcan can not be blamed for anything in this story. Several people are behind this joke. For example, my responsability lies in the fact that I asked Marcan on MSN to do it .
To people that felt offended by this joke, I sincerely apologize. But like Marcan said, in XOOPS as in life, there is a time to laught and a time to work. Please note that we, french Xoopsers, pay attention to carefully goof around only at april, 1st.

*Note to myself: Avoiding News post next year, due to RSS feeds*

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

MadFish Published 04/01/2005 18:27 Updated 04/01/2005 18:30 Friend of XOOPS Joined 09/27/2003 Comments 1056

Grrr...

Just pick a different subject next time. I half had a hatchet out in your defence - lucky I decided to put it away at last minute (one of my new years resolutions was not to start or participate in flame wars).

Anyway, glad it was a hoax. Your modules are outstanding. Complete Smartmedia, build multilanguage into the core, do that thing where crazy people leap into Arctic waters to swim with the pack ice and do and a few thousand Hail Mary's / equivalent penitence of your choice and I might forgive you...

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domineaux Published 04/01/2005 18:57 Updated 04/01/2005 19:24 Quite a regular Joined 09/29/2002 Comments 389

Your joke was in very poor taste. I was genuinely disappointed to read the news.

I won't elaborate, I'm glad you're not leaving.

Keep up the good work, I appreciate your modules.

Re: SmartApril'sFool ;-)

Mithrandir Published 04/01/2005 20:07 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

I woke up this morning to two practical jokes that I did not like.

One was about a security vulnerability that had me chasing down information on Portuguese sites for a while. That was annoying, because it is my responsibility as core developer to know about and deal with vulnerabilities in the XOOPS core.

Another was about a respected developer leaving the community due to differences in opinions with the core development team - or rather: Me. Now, I knew this one was fake because I had surely not had that kind of discussion with Marcan - on the contrary. However, it reflects badly on XOOPS to have news postings about developers leaving the community - especially if it is caused by a core developer.

Whether it is funny or not to some people, I don't want to comment on, but it was not that fun to me. These two jokes put XOOPS and myself in a bad light. That is really irritating.

Last year we had ourselves a joke about Microsoft buying XOOPS - also with the French community as masterminds - but that is different in the way that although there were also some very disappointed people reading that news item and almost ready to leave the community, it would not be such a bad news to have someone read 4-5 months later and taking it for the real thing - since it would be apparent by then that it would not reflect on the project, even if it HAD been bought by MS.

Reading about a serious vulnerability that had been in the core for 1-1½ years or a module developer leaving the community is not something I would like anyone to read in 4-5 months and think was for real. That leads to negativity, frustration and going somewhere else because of the way XOOPS is (supposedly) going.

I also like to know beforehand when my responsibility or my person is being used negatively in a joke. The two jokes were very well suited for comments or thoughts like "That Mithrandir dude is really not an asset for XOOPS causing (yet another) developer to leave and overlooking such a serious vulnerability". Those comments or thoughts may very well be valid (I don't think higher of myself than I can imagine some people having those thoughts already), but they should be for the real reasons.

As I have said elsewhere I have spent quite a bit of time tracking down the non-existing core vulnerability - time, I could have spent laughing at fun April's Fool jokes.

All in all I have not had a great April 1st and even now I cannot see the fun in these two jokes.

Please do better next year - we all need a GOOD laugh after this one

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felixxxx Published 04/01/2005 20:13 Just popping in Joined 03/24/2005 Comments 8

Foops, I really think you don't have to apologize. If some people are not getting jokes as they should, it's them problem. It is a international day of joke, so if some of us us are juste not able to have fun in thier lives, you are not responsible, as well as all the funny guys behind this joke.

Now, let's work!

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Rhomal Published 04/01/2005 22:14 Quite a regular Joined 10/05/2004 Comments 274

>Whether it is funny or not to some people, I don't want to comment on, but it was not that fun to me. These two jokes put XOOPS and myself in a bad light. That is really irritating.

Mith - we really need to stop meeting like this, ;) I agree 150% with your position.

As a side note, for future reference to those who want to pull stunts as such, this is how you execute a april fools joke:

http://www.nwn2news.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=50

The point being, by the time you get to the end of the 'interview' you a. got a good laugh because b. by the end you knew it was a joke.

Sadly with this 'joke' you had no idea as it was done in such a serious tone and context. I for was was ticked off as I was worried I had to convert all my FAQ data to a new module. This joke only caused me fear, concern and fustration for my sites FAQ.

Hopfully next time ppl with think of the LONG term effects of their little ha-ha rather then just the short term.

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Chainsaw Published 04/02/2005 0:42 Quite a regular Joined 09/28/2003 Comments 304

Quote:

Quote by rowdie:
A learning experience? Well yes, I learnt that I can't trust news posted on XOOPS.org. Good joke.

LOL in that case you shouldn't read your newspaper on 1st April then. It's been an annual thing for me to scan through my local newspapers each year on April Fools to spot the scam news reports. Lighten up - you've been punked.

Quote:

Three April Fool’s jokes that went terribly wrong:

1) Imagine reading that your husband or brother who has been held in a squalid Romanian prison for years is finally going to be released. You make the long journey to the prison and stand outside the gates, waiting desperately for the moment you’ll be reunited, only to hear: "April Fools! No one’s being released!" This experience happened to 60 people in April 2000 who read in the Opinia newspaper that their loved ones were going to be released from the Baia Mare prison. They made the long journey to the prison, only to learn that the paper had played an April Fool’s joke on them. Opinia later published an apology.

2) Randy Wood’s marriage was over, but apparently he was still a little bitter about the divorce. So he decided to play a prank on his ex-wife. He called her and asked her to come over, telling her he had something to show her. Obligingly, she drove over, only to find him hanging by a noose from a tree in his front yard. Terrified, she dialled 911. Emergency services, including firefighters, police and paramedics, soon showed up. But when they went to cut Wood down they discovered he wasn’t dead. He wasn’t even hurt. He had strung himself up as a prank to scare his ex-wife, using a lineman’s harness. He faces a fine of up to US$1000 and a year in jail for his prank.

3) Glenn Howlett’s colleagues at London Town Hall thought they had dreamed up a great gag. They sent him a memo informing him that the really big report he was working on was going to be due early, in just two weeks. The clue was that the memo was dated April 1. Ha! Ha! Except Howlett didn’t realise it was a joke. He received the memo while on holiday and immediately cut his break short and phoned the office to tell everyone to start getting busy. But as he contemplated the new deadline, he worked himself up into an increasing panic, until soon he began to experience heart palpitations. Finally, he collapsed from the stress and had to take leave from work. As he was recovering he realised it just wasn’t worth risking his health to finish the report, so he filed for early retirement. At which point someone told him the early deadline was just a joke. He responded by suing for damages. As a consequence of his lawsuit, staff have been banned from pulling any more pranks.

(Source: Alex Boese at http://www.museumofhoaxes.com)

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RVirtue Published 04/02/2005 6:01 Quite a regular Joined 08/04/2004 Comments 246

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Whether it is funny or not to some people, I don't want to comment on, but it was not that fun to me. These two jokes put XOOPS and myself in a bad light. That is really irritating.

As someone who looks to XOOPS primarily as a tool and to the XOOPS "community" in the context of support for that tool, I have to agree.

Perhaps I am lacking in the brand of "community spirit" that is considered appropriate for this particular environment, but I found more disturbing bad judgement and immaturity than humour in the episode. On the other hand, the fact that it was apparently perpetrated without prior knowledge on the part of Xoops' core leadership, while distressing for him (them?), actually provides some sense of relief from my perspective.

Just one "outsider's" point of view.

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JMorris Published 04/02/2005 6:31 XOOPS is my life! Joined 04/11/2004 Comments 2722

When I first read the original article, I freaked. I'll admit, I got suckered in hook, line and sinker. I didn't realize it was a joke until Herko piped in.

I agree that broadcasting this prank to the 'net as a whole may not have been the best way to go about it. And I definately feel that it should have been discussed with Mith prior to posting. However, I can see the humor in the joke and can appreciate it as such, even though I almost had to go change my pants when I first read it.

There is a saying that is appropriate here and I believe we should all keep in mind...

"Don't take yourself, or anything else, too damned seriously."

While I don't exactly agree with the execution of the prank, I don't feel that it was inappropriate (as a whole). After all, it is April Fool's Day. Even major corporations participate in such pranks.

Lets not forget, we are humans, not machines. Humor is an intregal part of the human experience, and yes, it is good medicine.

While I can clearly see both sides of this equation, and agree with many points on both sides, I will have to side more with the human in me and laugh about it all.

So, come on folks. We laughed, we were angered, and we learned. It was a true human experience and now it is time to move on.

Long live XOOPS

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RVirtue Published 04/02/2005 8:10 Quite a regular Joined 08/04/2004 Comments 246

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Even major corporations participate in such pranks.

I don't know what "major corporations" you may have in mind, but any CEO that I've ever met would be infuriated by being blindsided and having bad news about his company broadcast in such a manner, whether supposedly as a "joke" or not. And any that I know wouldn't be mollified either by a suggestion that they not take themselves or anything else too damned seriously. But maybe I've just been unfortunate in meeting a mean bunch of CEOs.

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Jharis Published 04/02/2005 10:46 Just can't stay away Joined 02/13/2005 Comments 488

Caught me by surprise too, but as my paster always says.... toughen up butter cup!

I happen to like Marcan's work and was a little freaked like most, but hey... that just shows we value his time, effort and craftsmanship.

don (el paso)

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Tandy Published 04/02/2005 13:34 Not too shy to talk Joined 08/11/2003 Comments 110

"A mean bunch of CEOs"

Surely, you court redundancy.

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JMorris Published 04/02/2005 15:29 Updated 04/02/2005 15:50 XOOPS is my life! Joined 04/11/2004 Comments 2722

Somewhere there's a dead horse getting the crap kicked out of it.

BTW, Richard, here's 100 examples of such foolery.

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tripmon Published 04/02/2005 18:22 Module Developer Joined 02/28/2004 Comments 462

Another Caught Fish

Glad to hear it!

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