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I use hostforweb.com as a web host, they have fantastico, it has XOOPS 2.0.16 I attempted to install it and it installs everything but doesn't set up the database and user relationship correctly, hense when you go to the site it gives a can't connect to the database error, if you go in and manually add the user you back to the url XOOPS was installed to and it's just blank...of course because the database tables etc couldn't have been setup correctly. So I come to the website, I download the XOOPS 2.0.17.zip and .gzip both, they both are not the full program, the actual core of the program all the modules and everything else aren't there??? I downloaded the 2.0.17 upgrade version as well because I was going to use fantastico to put in the original structure and then just upgrade it, but nothing works.....why is the download of 2.0.17 more or less an empty one, it is 1.2mb but not much more than docs etc....any help would be greatly appreciated, I would like to use XOOPS rather than use ArticleMS