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tom
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.'d
  • 2007/9/20 19:00

  • tom

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  • Since: 2002/9/21


ok cool, glad we're not arguing.

I'm not an expert on GPL

Smarty is still licensed under the GNU?

I know some people look at this as a grey area.

Quote:
If I have to write my new themes in PHP then I will, if that will make you see that the code has nothing to do with xoops. My themes aren't event based off of XOOPS default themes. I am not sure where anyone got the idea that code could not fall under a private license. It is an original work.


You don't have to make me see anything, I honestly respect what you say, and fully understand where your coming from, if you specifically asked me not to do something with your theme, then I'd personally comply.

When I was talking about the code being derived, again only my interpretation but if it uses gpl code to function then it's derived, I honestly don't know where that lines drawn between what's classed as derived and what's not, because technically in my eyes, if you made the theme as a stand-a-lone html template and licensed it, then later XOOPS'd it, in theory it's an original piece that was converted, so the original licence would have to remain.

I don't know...............

I think Herko's had more experience with the GPL and the law, perhaps if he see's this he could give the foundation lawyer/solicitors version, as they would be better verse in the legalities.

Or if anyone else here has a legal background perhaps they could drop us a note.

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script_fu
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d

Quote:

Biteronboard wrote:
a55 ()'s


What the heck is a55 ()'s?

Lost me...

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tom
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.'d
  • 2007/9/20 19:03

  • tom

  • Friend of XOOPS

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  • Since: 2002/9/21


Sorry I know I've already said it but again.

I am an advocate of commercial services including those offered by XOOPSDesign, Inbox, Instant Zero, XOOPSLance, etc, after all everyone needs to make a living.

Oh DefianceB0y I don't really like beer that much either, I do like Jack D's though. lol

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Will_H
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d
  • 2007/9/20 19:13

  • Will_H

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1786

  • Since: 2004/10/10


Alright heres a piece from the GPL that is interesting.

Quote:

As a special exception to GPL, any HTML file which merely makes function calls to this code, and for that purpose includes it by reference shall be deemed a separate work for copyright law purposes.

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script_fu
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d

Ding ding ding we have a winner. Linkage please? Is it the right lic?

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script_fu
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d

#OOPS# I thought you found that in a gpl licence? Did you write that for your intent and purpose? confused

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tom
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d
  • 2007/9/20 19:22

  • tom

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1359

  • Since: 2002/9/21


Script_Fu

It's from the GPL FAQ:

Quote:
I am writing a website maintenance system (called a “content management system” by some), or some other application which generates web pages from templates. What license should I use for those templates?

Templates are minor enough that it is not worth using copyleft to protect them. It is normally harmless to use copyleft on minor works, but templates are a special case, because they are combined with data provided by users of the application and the combination is distributed. So, we recommend that you license your templates under simple permissive terms.

Some templates make calls into Javascript functions. Since Javascript is often non-trivial, it is worth copylefting. Because the templates will be combined with user data, it's possible that template+user data+Javascript would be considered one work under copyright law. A line needs to be drawn between the Javascript (copylefted), and the user code (usually under incompatible terms).

A diagram of the above content

Here's an exception for Javascript code that does this:

As a special exception to GPL, any HTML file which merely makes function calls to this code, and for that purpose includes it by reference shall be deemed a separate work for copyright law purposes. In addition, the copyright holders of this code give you permission to combine this code with free software libraries that are released under the GNU LGPL. You may copy and distribute such a system following the terms of the GNU GPL for this code and the LGPL for the libraries. If you modify this code, you may extend this exception to your version of the code, but you are not obligated to do so. If you do not wish to do so, delete this exception statement from your version.



http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html

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tom
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d
  • 2007/9/20 19:28

  • tom

  • Friend of XOOPS

  • Posts: 1359

  • Since: 2002/9/21


So the next Question, but this could just be nit picking.

Quote:
any HTML file which merely makes function calls to this code, and for that purpose includes it by reference shall be deemed a separate work for copyright law purposes.


I'm not a coder, is the html theme merely making function calls to the code?

Looks like I certainly do stand corrected, unless anyone else has something else to offer to this debate?

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script_fu
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d

I will need to study this a little more... This kinda puts a different light on what I read into the gpl myself.

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script_fu
Re: Mr. Theme = P.O.d

I have never read this part of it as well... Interesting to say the least!

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