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Thanks, I've tried that though and it doesn't work. In fact, when I change it that way, it only aligns left. saying align center or right has no effect. I've tried width="100%" also, to no effect. It seems the right column extends all the way up and the header (where the logo is) sees that as the end of the page. align="center" works, it's just it's centered based on the fact that the right column is in it's way. If that makes any sence, hard to explain.