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Re: SMF 2.0 to XOOPS 2.5
by Shine on 2012/6/24 11:54:40

le="color: #000000"><?php For example one can see the WF-links module has been updated recently. so the new user can be find this module is in development: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xoops ... epository/XOOPS2/wfLinks/




It is just a pitty that the presented naming of the zipped Wflinks files are again confusing and wrong. Which again, brings a lot of confusion and will end up in a mess.
- XOOPS2_mod_wflinks_1.08_Catzwolf.zip;
- XOOPS2_mod_wflinks-jquery_1.03_wishcraft.zip;
- xoops25_mod_wflinks_1.09Beta_Mamba.zip

The latest version Wf-Links 107Final, is McDonalds version and NOT Catzwolf's.As stated before McDonalds took of where Catz left with the Wf Links module.
Mamba gave it another versioning: 1.08. But actually it is McDonalds WF-Links 1.07 Final. It doesn't make sence why Catzwolf's name is behind it. It doesn't make sense why a name Is behind it!
WF-Links 1.08 (originally and actually is wflinks 1.07Final!) has been converted (yesterday) to blue move. Because of this conversion, it got a new versioning. Wf-Links 1.09 Beta. (I don't understand why mamba's name is behind it, bcs this gives the impression as if there are 3 different wflinks modules. Which in fact are 2.
It should be presented as:
- XOOPS2_mod_wflinks_1.07Final.zip;
- xoops25_mod_wflinks_1.09Beta_.zip.
Every new development/bugfix etc. with THIS WF-Links module should be .zip presented without any name addition. So the versioning and module is and will stay clear.


As for wishcrafts Wf Links: he took Catzwolfs WFlinks 1.03 and did some changes. This Wflinks is totally other (and much older) WFlinks as McDonalds. They do not match. It is a pitty he kept the name wflinks. Considering this situation and to minimalise confusion Wishcrafts wflinks, should hold his name. Presented as now is the best.
- XOOPS2_mod_wflinks-jquery_1.03_wishcraft.zip;
This Wflinks is a totally different module and isn't compatible with MCDonalds.


Re: SMF 2.0 to XOOPS 2.5
by irmtfan on 2012/6/24 10:05:33

Quote:

Well, to be exact, CMS stands for Content Management System, XOOPS right now is MS.... there is no content. Yeah it's ours... but is something different right now, maybe Development Framework, but not cms for sure....

Surely i just call it CMS because in general XOOPS end users will be confused if we call it a framework. But im agree about the lack of good stable content module. It should be involved in the very next core release just beside PM and Profile module. i think it is more important than a module like PM.

Quote:

Profile (core) module not works on shared HSP with 8 to 16MB PHP Memory - blank pages, same is for wishcraft bcz is fork from the core profile.

Lack of socializing integration (tons of registrations everywhere, this time lay in history, now ppl connect with they're Twitter/FB accounts)

Or Profile by Wishcraft ("My modules are without bugs") - there is no God cloning on Earth so far, every human makes mistakes, and since gives blank page on 8MB PHP Memory like the original one... such statement is foolish.

To be honest and as i said in my last post, this profile module need many improvements both in features and stability.
IMO this is the second priority for core developers (the content as a core module is the first one)

Quote:

NewBB... did u remember which year was released XOOPS 2.0.18 ?
And how much things changed since then ?

Yes, and thanks to phppp version 3.08 is still stable even in 2.5.5
I see it as the power of newbb.

Quote:

I think that only who cares about XOOPS right now is Mamba... rest are absent
Bitcero - lack of interest to fix and improve his modules, RM Common don't accept other PO files (translations)
Trabis - no sign of him from ages
OnoKazu - I've returned bcz of him... no sign since the announce, I was excited about XOOPS with him as leader, but now looks just as unconfirmed rumor.
Catz - same as onokazu... gone in the wind
Solo - ...

you can not talk without evidence. Maybe they just have personal issues or dont have enough times to donate for free for xoops development.
IMO doing nothing is much better than do something wrong.
we all should try to direct xoops in the right way.

Also the module naming issue is something that should be fixed ASAP.

EDIT:
To avoid confusion between too many same modules and versions, every new xoops users can go here for downloading modules:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xoops/files/XOOPS%20Module%20Repository/XOOPS2/

For example one can see the WF-links module has been updated recently. so the new user can be find this module is in development:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xoops/files/XOOPS%20Module%20Repository/XOOPS2/wfLinks/

Re: SMF 2.0 to XOOPS 2.5
by DCrussader on 2012/6/24 8:36:15

Quote:

Your complaints can give a bad image of Xoops for people who read your messages. This may also discourage people motivated.


Ok, say something good for 2.5.5
+Good Administration Interface - still needs a lot of corrections, but is something good
(please continue)
Re: SMF 2.0 to XOOPS 2.5
by Cesagonchu on 2012/6/24 8:26:13

This does not come to your mind to act instead of complain? (I am speaking to all those who complain).
Many complain of many things, but do you know that many people act every day to try to improve what is wrong with Xoops and modules?
Your complaints can give a bad image of Xoops for people who read your messages. This may also discourage people motivated.

There is a link given in WOX, for example : Feature requests


Give feedback is good, but say that something is worthless, it brings what?!
Re: SMF 2.0 to XOOPS 2.5
by DCrussader on 2012/6/24 8:01:53

Quote:

But in the other hand this is just our xoops,we all made it a CMS so if you find an error and just complained, you should complain your share too.


Well, to be exact, CMS stands for Content Management System, XOOPS right now is MS.... there is no content. Yeah it's ours... but is something different right now, maybe Development Framework, but not cms for sure....

My share ? or My complain ?
Shared complain in first post
Profile (core) module not works on shared HSP with 8 to 16MB PHP Memory - blank pages, same is for wishcraft bcz is fork from the core profile.

Lack of socializing integration (tons of registrations everywhere, this time lay in history, now ppl connect with they're Twitter/FB accounts)

Or Profile by Wishcraft ("My modules are without bugs") - there is no God cloning on Earth so far, every human makes mistakes, and since gives blank page on 8MB PHP Memory like the original one... such statement is foolish.

NewBB... did u remember which year was released XOOPS 2.0.18 ?
And how much things changed since then ?

And for content there are tons of posts which starts with "put some rules god damn it" - strict rules. There is one news, written by herve thouzard, all of other forks, variations, modifications and such have to be renamed - or banned, 1 week at first sign, 2 weeks as 2nd warning - forever as 3rd and final.

Naming - 2 Profile modules, why there is no such allowed and advertised misleading anywhere else ? Show me CMS, even XOOPS forks where there is such anarchy, 10 times by 10 different maintainers - News, 2 Profiles, 2 different versions of NewBB, 3 different versions of WF-Links..., 3 different versions by WFDownloads, by Blue Move, by Marcan, by Catzwolf - all of them are functional on 2.5.5, but all of them give different errors sometimes, different warnings.

10 News forks, including Herve's news, all of them are news
(are u out of imagination, u can't think for a new name or what?)

If I was a PHP Programmer and took the existing SVN code for 2.5.5, change some backlinks, and re-release it as my work... whole community will scream to hell, but bcz Herve, Catz, and rest are no longer here, lets make and maintain the mess.
... and this mess brings nothing, download hits are simple prove of that, talking about my translations:

J! Translations (http://cmsbg.info/translations/joomla/viewcategory/36-joomla) from 2 to 300 downloads per file.
Drupal Translations (http://cmsbg.info/translations/drupal/viewcategory/39-drupal) 2 apps only, bcz of the Elvish language used in Drupal... but still downloaded a lot
XOOPS Modules translations (http://cmsbg.info/files/viewcategory/114-xoops) - none of them got 2 digits downloads.

I think that only who cares about XOOPS right now is Mamba... rest are absent
Bitcero - lack of interest to fix and improve his modules, RM Common don't accept other PO files (translations)
Trabis - no sign of him from ages
OnoKazu - I've returned bcz of him... no sign since the announce, I was excited about XOOPS with him as leader, but now looks just as unconfirmed rumor.
Catz - same as onokazu... gone in the wind
Solo - ...

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