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Re: Theming and templating in Xoops: my two cents
by ianez on 2010/11/11 17:30:25

general purpose classes are certainly useful.. and I've always used them..
contextual css which specyfies an attribute for a given object it's really useful (like the general cursive class applied to a div with 'tablist' class...<div class="tablist cursive">)

in a theme may be you can have from five to ten general purpose classes.. but I've never see such a huge amount of classes specyfing the border width, the colors , twenty types of different width ecc ecc..
my opinion it's that we just have css language.. what exactly is the benefit of creating almost another language making the learning curve wider for new users/developers??
because I'm sure 100% of any theme designer know how to create a class for having a dotted border.. but no one knows
le="color: #000000"><?php .dottedwhite { border : 1px dotted #fff;}
and I can't understand why someone should learn it..

last but not least css it's not a markup language.. it has to be used for presentation semantics.. so if you apply an id/class or more than one to every single line of the html.. well css loses its function and there's almost no difference from writing inline style or html attributes
Re: Theming and templating in Xoops: my two cents
by kris_fr on 2010/11/10 22:06:16

Regarding the usefulness of generic css class, a new version of the xoops-styles module will show you the possibilities - note that these classes have been used to simplify the css code for the new system module.
Most cms have such generic class, and it is quite normal and useful to have them in xoops
Re: Theming and templating in Xoops: my two cents
by ianez on 2010/11/10 19:12:31

@ghia, @mamba
than you for your support,
hope more people will join the discussion!
and in a few I'll post here a more detailed program

@aitor
I guess your post it's more about the theme I posted recently.. so I've answered you in another discussion wich you can find here https://xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=72618&post_id=333466#forumpost333466

Ian
Re: Theming and templating in Xoops: my two cents
by aitor on 2010/11/10 17:26:05

ianez waiting for future advancement to this idea of new css working way.

I personally like your css because it is outside of desing, if you know where to change is easy to make the change and also easy to make big changes.

Hope that you can let us know where to make changes in the theme to hide left block or right block etc.

I am thinking in the posibility to make a little module to allow set the size of the blocks, change the logo, change basic colors.

Showing your css file i see it easy to develop and could make easy to made new users start play with xoops.

Also could be good the good other efects seen in other themes, to show where could be they implemented, like slideshow or xoops header with search here - logout - wellcome back etc.

I think that your theme could be a really good start.

Hope that this could be understand, my english is not as good as i want.
Re: Theming and templating in Xoops: my two cents
by Mamba on 2010/11/10 17:20:09

Quote:
Now I want to be positive and propose possible solutions..

I love the fact that you see something that you think could be improved, and instead of just complaining, you're actually providing a possible solution!

We need more of that!

Wishing your guys a very productive discussion...

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