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Posted by: stejcOn 2002/10/23 15:20:08 6587 reads

scapesound_T theme available for download... view at scapesound. Theme is currently ok under IE not tested on any other browsers, i'm not looking for feedback on this

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Included* dhtmllib.js/ menu.js/navbar.js for top menu.
Menu.js holds links, positioning and colours for menu bar / please read through comments of menu.js as any email questions for how to edit this file to suit will not be replied to if i am busy.

Download here.

images for mydownloads logo-en.gif and mylinks logo.gif. + fireworks png files can be found here

newbb buttons/ icons fireworks png files can be found here

fireworks png files for theme. can be found here

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Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

bblackmoor Published 10/24/2002 16:52 Just popping in Joined 09/30/2002 Comments 4

Not bad. You need to dump the Flash garbage, though. Flash is fine for little movies and such, but is not appropriate for use on web sites. It's non-standard, breaks your web site unless the user has installed some proprietary third-party software, and frequently crashes people's computers when it is installed. It's just bad news all around. High school kids and people who create banner ads like it because they think it's "hi tech" and "eye-catching", but people who know about web design know to avoid it, and people who have any technical know-how at all have deleted the Flash plug-in because they are tired of the useless and distracting Flash ads everywhere.

So it's better to not use Flash. Other than that, it looks pretty good.

Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

jackt Published 10/24/2002 21:02 Just popping in Joined 06/02/2002 Comments 31

I agree it's not bad.. though I would also agree to lose the flash. Not only because you are restricting your site for only those who have the flash plugin, but because on my sdsl connection it took far too long for that navigation bar to load. Why not a javascript navigation bar? It could accomplish the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with a flash banner, they can look better than animated gifs as long as you realize a lot of people may not be able to see it, or if you have code to detect if flash (and if it's not replace it with an animated gif version or something). I think the use of flash depends on the purpose of your site. I don't think a news site for example should use flash at all (or at least not in anything required to navigate the site), but I think flash sites are great for like official movie sites and sites used for entertainment and not content publishing.

A pretty decent job on the theme otherwise.

Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

Haakon Published 10/26/2002 20:46 Just popping in Joined 01/25/2002 Comments 45

Why are you two dumping on Flash with regards to this theme? I have tried my best to find out where the Flash is - except for the small anim on the frontpage - and I couldn't find it!

But please - if somebody wishes to use Flash, which after all is packed with all major browsers now, and according to Macromedia 97.8% of browsers have the plugin, that is their choice.

bblackmoor - you make statements such as
"but people who know about web design know to avoid it" - Who told you this? People who know about web design use what WORKS - whether it is javascript, CSS, DHTML, XML, PHP, ASP, ColdFusion, Flash, Java or whatever! It isn't the tools that are important - it is the finished product!

Usability Guru Jakob Nielsen, who used to be a fervent Flash-basher, now actually works in conjunction with Macromedia to increase usability.

Flash menus are fast and smooth. Naturally, the menu on this site isn't flash (as jackt seems to think) - it is a javascript menu and not the most efficient one I have seen.

I much prefer the menus generated by f.ex. Xara.com's Menu Maker, Seltecos MenuMaker or Sothink's version - these create smooth, crossbrowser menus.

bblackmoor, you also say "deleted the Flash plug-in because they are tired of the useless and distracting Flash ads everywhere". These are the same people who browse with no images to avoid banners, right? Who never give a single click back to the webcommunity?

You know - I wouldn't want visits from these people anyway. All the Eyeblaster-ads I have seen have a close-X - it takes seconds to close them. Or click them, and give the site-owner a few cents.

IMHO, stejc has done a great job on this theme . Finding a freeware javascript-menu isn't easy, after all. One that might work is http://www.brainjar.com/ - Mike Hall seems to be a very good programmer.

Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

stejc Published 10/27/2002 1:21 Just popping in Joined 06/11/2002 Comments 9

Yeh there aint no flash in the theme , just on the front page, the menu takes a while to appear because of high content of graphics on the page, and all images load up b4 the menu, I am currently writing a javascript menu, i prefer the top menu to the long space filling side menu anyday of the week.
As i said in the news post, I don't care much for any other browser apart from IE, my browser never crashes with the flash plugin.

Flash is one of the best tools on the internet for getting something out of the ordinary, there's no way on earth you could achieve the crisp, cleaness and file optimisation of animations or splash pages with animated gifs?? LoL I wouldn't sit there for 5 minutes waiting for a 1 meg animation to appear.

*goes away chuckling*

Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

swisslyons Published 10/30/2002 19:16 Just popping in Joined 06/23/2002 Comments 43

Blackmoor,
that is about the most closeminded, simplistic flash-bash i have ever heard. I know a lot about web design, php and flash programming, and I must disagree with your opinion entirely. Flash is the number one downloaded browser plugin ever. More people can see flash content across browsers and platforms than Java, javascript or any other technology that makes it possible to do interesting content.

here, take a look at my new XOOPS page. Try and make something like that mp3 player or Navigation without Flash.

http://bianchi.iserve.ch/

Re: scapesound_T theme with dhtml menu

bblackmoor Published 03/22/2003 21:29 Just popping in Joined 09/30/2002 Comments 4

Quote:

I know a lot about web design, php and flash programming, and I must disagree with your opinion entirely.

If you think breaking web fundamentals by using a proprietary, nonstandard, inaccessible third-party plug-in that is used almost entirely for advertisements is a good idea, you don't know ANYTHING about web design.

Quote:

here, take a look at my new XOOPS page.
http://bianchi.iserve.ch/

A blank page. I rest my case.

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