Re: BluewaterX ThemeI certainly don't begrudge you charging money for your themes (good luck at $50!), but in keeping with the open source, sharing context of XOOPS, you should indicate that in your post. Having felt tricked, I wouldn't buy it regardless of how fantastic it is.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeLooks like they're using rhadownloads. Pretty cool.
Re: BluewaterX Themehere we go again....
we charge for the themes depending on how much work it cost to make it compatible with xoops.
our previous theme cost only $20.00 because it had less work. i think you are mad because we are not doing this for Free.and unfortunaly everybody think that open source and things related with open source should be free.
the other reason why we make this theme for $50.00 is because in intended for a Business website. now my question to you.. HOW much do you charge your client for a Business website??
i will presume from $200 to $1000 minimun, so spendng $50.00 in our theme and installing XOOPS for free in your client hosting it will give you a big profit in your pocket. so in other words we are simplifiying the life of a designer who want to deliver a quality XOOPS site.
for the download module.. we are using rha7downloads but is not working properly, so once the payment is received we are sending the files manually by e-mail
Re: BluewaterX Themei think the reason some people will disagree is because of the idea of Open source and the definition people have.
almost everybody hear GPL or Open source and they think all means the same = FREE wich is not 100% true.
the other reason people will disagree is because they are too use to get FREE themes on the themes section of this website. i think there is nothing wrong in having both option (Free and paid)it will actually make XOOPS a stronger CMS and probably we are making the road for other designer to join XOOPS and make better XOOPS theme, if they charge or not it will be their desicion.
but at least we will have more quality themes options.
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I certainly don't begrudge you charging money for your themes (good luck at $50!), but in keeping with the open source, sharing context of XOOPS, you should indicate that in your post. Having felt tricked, I wouldn't buy it regardless of how fantastic it is.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI think I would want to see this (or any) theme in action before spending $50 to find out certain modules don't work or look like hell if they do work.
No problem with paying for something, but a screen shot does not come close to cutting it for me.
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almost everybody hear GPL or Open source and they think all means the same = FREE wich is not 100% true.
) buy this I(Not me ) can spread this theme all over the world, and you certainly will not recieve a penny of it since I(not me ) will do it for free.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeActually, you can't distribute it legally for free as images are covered by copyright.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeWell, I'm sure anyone can reproduce the images (newer versions I mean).
Re: BluewaterX ThemeAlso he says:
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we charge for the themes depending on how much work it cost to make it compatible with xoops.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeGuys,
Are we trying to encourage people to produce or port quality themes for XOOPS or not? This isn't the way to do so!
don (el paso)
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI am not planing to reproduce this theme by any means, just wanted to tell him, that someone might do!
Re: BluewaterX ThemeA common misconception is that open source must be free, or at least, that charging for it is somehow morally wrong. This is not so:
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When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things.
- Preamble to the GNU General Public License
Re: BluewaterX ThemeThen tell me Madfish, are you willing to pay? And I not only mean for the themes but also for modules? Let's say you have a nice XOOPS site with 5 active modules á 20 dollar per module, a nice bought theme á 20 dollar, makes 120 dollar in total,..mm.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeYes I am willing to pay - I put money into the AMS module that Brash/Mith worked on, because I wanted to see it released to the wider community (you can check that on the IT Headquarters site). I have also donated to XOOPS (you can check with Herko if you feel like it, it is not obvious due to my 'doc writer' label). So: Yes, I have 'put my money where my mouth is'.
Please understand that I am not advocating a move towards only-for-money software or themes. My point is that charging for GPL software is entirely legitimate, and we should not beat up on people that do that - because we often do.
XOOPS still has a few key gaps as far as modules go, and paid development projects might be another way to fill some of the holes. For example, completion of an ecommerce module would be a huge boost to XOOPs.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeDon't get me wrong, it is not a personal attack on you, but can you imagine that when this happens, alot of Xoopsers won't pay and leave the community.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeNo problem, I get your point. If I had to pay for everything I'd go too :)
Re: BluewaterX ThemeIMHO
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* (repeating from others) - nothing bad with themes for moneys, but - this fact and cost must be stated in news
* this theme doesn't cost $50, as previous - $29... $15-$20, maybe. It will not be unique (for single buyer) and doesn't contain nothing cool in theme-design... Even my 0DC-* themes from httpp://themes.xoops2.ru are better 
}
Re: BluewaterX Themeonce again the stupid dialog about charging of a theme is happening again...
dont you have tired about this?
xoops community needs more elegant themes [because the most are craps] and if somebody likes something is not a big deal to pay some $ for this...
"free as free mind not as a free beer"
Re: BluewaterX ThemeArt is just as difficult as coding, and a heavy duty skill in its own right.
Half my office has no artistic talent at all, and the other half is colour blind :)
Re: BluewaterX ThemeWhat the hell is wrong with SHARING?? I hear alot of people telling that it's okay when people ask money for themes,,but what is wrong with sharing?
Is money the engine of this cms,,no it isn't! It is people freely share knowledge with each other! One guy makes a piece of code, gives it to a designer who gives the code a nice jacket.
Aaargh,.,. 
Re: BluewaterX ThemeJa, ja! We must not allow Kapitalism in either the XOOPS or the open source community. All contributions must be free to all and regulated by the Central Politburo. There will be no private property or any incentive to increase one's wealth. All themes and modules must be made freely available to our fellow citizens or the creators will be ostracized and they and their familes exiled to the gulags. Marx wrote on this extensively in The Communist Manifesto. If memory serves, there is even a passage exclusively dedicated to XOOPS and free themes. 
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI guess you are missing my point,.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeIt's probably the Objectivist in me. No offense intended.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeGuys that fact is that everybody is entitled to there point of view, but according to the GNU licence Free means Freedom not free of price. People are entitled to create something and give it for free, they can charge for it, or the can keep it for themselves. As long as nobody is breaking any rules, why make all the fuss? As already stated, many people will happily pay for a good theme, so because of that paid themes should have a place in the xoops.org news section. If you don't want to pay for a theme you don't, you go look at the many free themes out there. Open source is all about choice.
Now can we keep this comment section for comments about the theme in question. If anybody would like to discuss the free/paid theme debate further, please start a topic in the forums, but leave this space for comments on the actual theme, and not how it should or shouldn't be distributed.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI love it. You got guys cursing up a storm and causing general controversy - insulting people and making all kinds of accusations about plagarism, etc. etc. etc, and nobody really says or does a thing about it. They just pussyfoot and tiptoe around them. But when a valid subject comes up, here come the Thought Police.
Re: BluewaterX Themeunfortunaly am not able to edit the NEWS i posted, so i cannot change that this one is a paid theme...
for module compability bluewaterx was designer to be compatible with the modules that will fit for a business site and it may be compatible with some other one.
if it does not fit for your module, all you have to do is edit the CSS or Templates in your module and that all.
with all this controversi.. you are only making designer go away and keep the Free Crapy old themes... like i said in a previous post.. there is ntohing wrong with having options..
FREE THEMES AND PAID THEMES... you have the option. before you have only 1 option.. the FREE themes wich were not always nice ones...
now if this controversi continue.. i wil stop doing themes and everybody will be happy and keep the crapy themes like they like it before.
for copyright.. of course once someone buy it it may be ditributed underground, we are aware of that.. thats why we include a readme file wich the owner should follow some copyright rules.
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gestroud Posted:
I love it. You got guys cursing up a storm and causing general controversy - insulting people and making all kinds of accusations about plagarism, etc. etc. etc, and nobody really says or does a thing about it. They just pussyfoot and tiptoe around them. But when a valid subject comes up, here come the Thought Police.
Topics - Please stay on topic. For general conversation, please use the General Discussions forum.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeGood point James. We are using the comments sections and should move to the forums for off topic discussion.
don (el paso)
Re: BluewaterX ThemeCan pay themes be somewhere else? I mean everything else on this site is free. Throwing in pay themes just seems out of place.
Re: BluewaterX Themeon the bright side the theme looks very nice. Is there a site where we can see a demo?
Re: BluewaterX Theme@probatus: as requested above by 2 moderators, please stop this dicussion about paid themes here in the BluewaterX Theme comments section. If you wish to continue the discussion, please move to the forums.
Biteronboard, I agree. A demo would be nice.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeAt what point did free=crappy? I don't mean to extend the free versus pay debate, but I don't think this claim should slide by without comment.
If anyone cares to sift through the hundreds of free themes available here in the Themes Library, I think you will find some excellent themes. To equate free with crappy is an insult to all those who donated their efforts to supplying some very good themes. Themes by 7-Dana, just for one example, are very well designed and are top quality.
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Themes by 7-Dana, just for one example, are very well designed and are top quality.
Re: BluewaterX Theme[Edited by JMorris]
Please do not make threatening statements to ANY member of XOOPS.
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Qouted from XOOPSiquette:
Language - Please keep the use of offensive language to a minimum. We are here for people of all ages, and want everone to feel comfortable. Offensive language constitutes as profanity, racial, ethnic, and gender based insults or any other personal discriminations, and posts meant to offend or hurt any other member.
Be Nice! - We pride ourselves in being a tight-knit community that polices itself well, and we want to keep it that way. This means showing respect to all members.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI just purchased the red theme from them, they took my money of course... but didnt give me any sort of download. I tried emailing them, and they havent replied.
I called their customer service number provided on their paypal receipt -- with no answer.
I tried their "live chat" and all of them are offline.
WTF???
Re: BluewaterX ThemeOK I finally got through to someone, and they are going to send an attachment to me soon. Whew.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeI apologise..
like i mention before in a post the rha7downloads is not working properly so we have to send the file manually by e-mail. we are still looking for a solution for selling the themes with instant download
we dont rip off people that is not good business for us.
Re: BluewaterX ThemeIs there any discount for non-profit organizations?
Re: BluewaterX Themeplease send me your URL through PM , if your site comply with non profit rules and regulations we may give it for Free or by a small donation
Re: BluewaterX ThemeThe link in this post is not longer available
admin please update the theme page to
http://www.xdigitalnet.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=15
here we are going to post the current and new themes
thanks
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