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xoobaru
Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/16 20:28

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


Every XOOPs page reload tries to load a flash cookie but banners are disabled. What else does XOOPS use flash for, and how does it get disabled?

No config options that I could find.

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Peekay
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/16 23:13

  • Peekay

  • XOOPS is my life!

  • Posts: 2335

  • Since: 2004/11/20


What is the name of the cookie?

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xoobaru
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/17 0:53

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


It keeps deleting it, but the path is to the Macromedia folder. Wouldn't that the Macromedia default flash cookie?

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Peekay
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/17 14:31

  • Peekay

  • XOOPS is my life!

  • Posts: 2335

  • Since: 2004/11/20


Do you mean this cookie is being set when you visit xoops.org? If I check cookies, on the XO homepage I get:

PHPSESSID
__utma
__utmb
__utmc
__utmz

Viewing the forum I get the additions:

newbb_OLV
__atuvc

Logging in adds:

newbb_27086LV
xoops_org_user


The PHPSESSID is a required cookie from the Xoops CMS. All the __utm* cookies are from Google analytics. The __atuvc cookie is from the 'Add This' social media bookmarking utility in the right block. The others are from the CBB (NewBB) forum.

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xoobaru
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/17 14:49

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


These flash cookies may not be captured by the browser. In Firefox, I have to use an add-on "Better Privacy" to detect them. I see the same things see in the browser cookie viewer but no flash cookie.

Somewhere, something is calling macromedia, most likely a javascript. So I will do a low level keyword string search on the whole mess and see if that doesn't reveal the source of that.

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Peekay
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/17 15:45

  • Peekay

  • XOOPS is my life!

  • Posts: 2335

  • Since: 2004/11/20


That plugin is REALLY interesting. I had no idea about these cookies. Many thx for the info.

I appear to have LSO cookies set by the BBC iPlayer (emp.bbci.co.uk), Brightcove, a cloud video service, YouTube (s.ytimg.com) an online website builder called (weebly.com) which I assume was set from visiting one of the sites they host and Post Affiliate Pro (imtek.postaffiliatepro.com) - an affiliate tracking system. They actually set two cookies while I was researching!

Cookies like the ones from the affiliate system do raise privacy issues (IMHO) because they are simply data-gathering and not user experience related. I would think that any website which is using flash cookies to store user data without their consent is potentially in breach of the EU Cookie Directive.

I haven't found any (yet) from visiting XO though?

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xoobaru
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/17 16:31

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


There's probably a third way we can't even detect yet The nice thing is BP can be set to auto terminate the cookie in as little as 1 second of its landing.

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irmtfan
Re: Flash cookies try to load, but banners are disabled
  • 2013/2/18 2:11

  • irmtfan

  • Module Developer

  • Posts: 3419

  • Since: 2003/12/7


just FYI newbb have these cookies:

// NewBB cookie structure
/* NewBB cookie storage
    Long term cookie: (configurable, generally one month)
        LV - Last Visit
        M - Menu mode
        V - View mode
        G - Toggle
    Short term cookie: (same as session life time)
        ST - Stored Topic IDs for mark
        LP - Last Post
        LF - Forum Last view
        LT - Topic Last read
        LVT - Last Visit Temp
*/


they are mainly for keeping your last visit of forums and more importantly for read/unread topics/posts

all of them was almost useless in previous newbb versions because of many bugs. I solved all of them in irmtfan branch.

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