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gab
Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 8:40

  • gab

  • Just popping in

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  • Since: 2001/12/19


The topic "Show us the $$$" was deleted by Herko

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McDonald
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 8:48

  • McDonald

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Quote:
The topic "Show us the $$$" was deleted by Herko


Can you proof that this topic was removed by Herko and not by yourself?

It's more likely it was done by Damaster, because he's well known for hacking other posts, accounts, etc.

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riosoft
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 8:52

  • riosoft

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 191

  • Since: 2003/11/8


I hope administrators give us precise information what happened!
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damaster
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 9:15

  • damaster

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 556

  • Since: 2003/5/11


@McDonald

What's the topic about ?

For sure, i read that Herko plan to use XOOPS users donations on impress cms project.
It seems to me that's the project you have joining, no?

So, if it's about ethics, let Herko answer.
After all, he promised transparency and reports.

If XOOPS project don't need a fundation (by the way never needed one)
people should be refunded (humm...maybe its 'administratively' to complicate for people who couldn't publish a report)
or give donations and adds funds to sourceforge, apache, etc.

Since XOOPS relays on such technologies, seems fair, don't you think?
I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

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McDonald
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 9:38

  • McDonald

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Quote:
For sure, i read that Herko plan to use XOOPS users donations on impress cms project.


I haven't read that anywhere.

Quote:
It seems to me that's the project you have joining, no?


I am not part of any project nor did I join one. In the past I've been asked a couple of times to do so, for xoops, xoops.nl, impresscms, etc. but so far I've refused this.

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damaster
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 9:43

  • damaster

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 556

  • Since: 2003/5/11


@McDonald

You don't have to justify your-self

Maybe it's better answer the question :

Do you think it's fair to request Herko's Fundation to refund
xoops users or to give donations and adds funds to Apache,
Sourceforge, and other trusted projects in which we all relay
to run XOOPS smoothly?

I like people more than machines or money. But that's me!
Lets do something good and great: Lets do open source!

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riosoft
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 10:08

  • riosoft

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 191

  • Since: 2003/11/8


Damaster, McDonald is not been tried neither Herko. We must await administrators response about the happened.
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McDonald
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 11:12

  • McDonald

  • Home away from home

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  • Since: 2005/8/15


Quote:
Do you think it's fair to request Herko's Fundation to refund
xoops users or to give donations and adds funds to Apache,
Sourceforge, and other trusted projects in which we all relay
to run XOOPS smoothly?


The money was donated by users to benefit XOOPS and money should be used for this of course.
I don't know how much money is 'left', only know that some was used for dedicated XOOPS servers but as far as I know XOOPS moved to other servers some how...
The name XOOPS was registered (for legally reasons like trademark, logo copyright etc) in the Netherlands by Herko. In my opinion this registration should move to another name and the money should go (and probably still is) back to some kind of Foundation. A Foundation is needed for XOOPS for legally reasons I guess and for the money (control of it). Without a foundation there will be a money issue for a long long time. Because the money should be transfered to some kind of organisation instead of to a person.

But at this moment I don't think the money is the biggest issue for Xoops. XOOPS needs first to be (re)organised and when that's done money issues will be solved easily. If not, XOOPS will be a hobby-project instead of a seriously to be taken CMS.

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irmtfan
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 12:35

  • irmtfan

  • Module Developer

  • Posts: 3419

  • Since: 2003/12/7


those fragile times in xoops.org is over. the current admins are responsible for the security of this site.

the mentioned topic was moved by me because:
1- a banned user submit some posts in it.
2- there is not any reason to continue in the subject. all those people left XOOPS and all current admins are trying to getting it back.
it means:
the current people running XOOPS are trying to get old foundation, money and everything else back to the project.

also this topic will be moved to holding area.

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riosoft
Re: Show us the $$$!!!
  • 2008/3/5 13:05

  • riosoft

  • Not too shy to talk

  • Posts: 191

  • Since: 2003/11/8


Sorry irmtfan, but I do not agree.. If a banned user has posted delete his posts only and not all (me for example).
The post is of interest for all XOOPS community (donators and colaborators, etc). Others posts are hidden from homepage and I don't understand the reason.

Greetings
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