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msdana
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:31

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EDIT

JMorris, I believe you cleared it all up for me. No theme is really HTML valid.

I do have a test site, and no theme validates.
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JMorris
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:35

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Live homepage with valid code in all blocks (simple lorem text works well). Personally, I have a set of default templates I've modified to validate on the module indexes that I use for theme validation.

Hope that helps.

James
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msdana
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:36

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Are you saying you do get a theme to validate?
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JMorris
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:38

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Every one I've coded in the last year, at least.

The reason you cannot get your themes to pass is because you are presenting Smarty code to the validator. This will never pass. You must put the theme on a live [testing] site if you ever want it to validate because the Smarty variables must be parsed.

Hope that helps.

James
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msdana
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:41

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Thanks JMorris!

So, to get it to validate on my "test" site, I just make dummy blocks and work from that. Which means it's possible it won't validate on another user's site, correct?

Which finally answers my question of how to validate, with or without content. Thanks!
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JMorris
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:45

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Quote:

msdana wrote:
Thanks JMorris!

So, to get it to validate on my "test" site, I just make dummy blocks and work from that. Which means it's possible it won't validate on another user's site, correct?


Yes, that is correct. Usually, the theme will not validate for the end user's site unless you supply a "valid" template set for every module on their site. Not very realistic.

Quote:

msdana wrote:
Which finally answers my question of how to validate, with or without content. Thanks!


No problem. Glad I could help.

Best Regards,

James
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Bassman
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:50

  • Bassman

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I have a testing site, with the standard News module, login and search blocks, and several "lorem ipsum" blocks for content. With all that as the "home"page, I can get themes to validate W3C XHTML and CSS. It's the output of some of the other modules that's not compliant :) It's what's visible on your page before login that is checked. The last 3 themes i've done validate OK with this setup.
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msdana
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 4:54

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Which is basically what JMorris is saying, one can get it to validate on their site, but it won't validate on another's site that has different modules/blocks.

I think saying it's validated doesn't really mean much, because the end user isn't going to be using the modules I used to validate, therefore negating the validation.
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Bassman
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 10:51

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Sure, but don't you think that having a theme that validates is a good place to start for someone who is interested in getting their whole site to validate? At the very least, it's one part they don't have to worry about.

I should point out that only a few themes I have done prior to the most recent ones validate, or were even tested.
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msdana
Re: (X)HTML Validation

  • 2006/5/28 19:49

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Quote:
Sure, but don't you think that having a theme that validates is a good place to start for someone who is interested in getting their whole site to validate?


Yes, I agree with that.

I now understand that a theme can validate one site, but because of the differences on each site, it possibly won't validate on another's site. I guess I need to make it clear in future theme designs that though it validates on my site, it may not on the end users site.

My questions/concerns have been answered and I realize I am not responsible for a theme not validating on an end users site because of some modules. It's all clear now
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