HI Sail, Lets come up with an image of our own that does not infringe or require permission -- something unique to the Xoops-end-user.com community. I'll give it some thought and anyone else with ideas for a colorful free to use for everyone logo is welcome to chime in. put it in the http://www.xoops.net.br/index.php?title=BannerPending << logo size please and lets see what we come up with. Thanks, BTW: doesn't my logo look a little like popye the sailor man? Darcy Hint: the hat is a D and the neck line is a y