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Posted by: ralf57On 2005/3/23 13:17:53 7623 reads

Hi xoopsers,
after a long delay the beta2 version of Adminarea Revisited hack is out.
This hack aims to give a new and fresh look to the backend without editing the core files.

Besides many bugfixes (thanks to those who reported them) this release has 3 main features:
1)A brand new admin menu which is lightweight (only 5KB)
and should be cross-browser and cross-platform
See screenshot
2)A new pluggable admin blocks system which allows you
to display custom blocks in the admin area frontpage
See screenshot
3)A new scroller for displaying Xoops.org's news
instead of the whole page like in the default installation
See screenshot
Other screenshots:
Screenshot1
Screenshot2
Since it is a hack i strongly recommend you to read the README file before installing.
The Adminarea Revisited project is hosted at dev.xoops.org
so go there for bugs reporting,forum discussions,files etc.
If you are not patient this link is for
Direct download
A final note: if you write your own adminblocks(plugin) please send them in so i can publically release them.

Nice xoopsing,
ralf57.

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Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

loukaum Published 03/23/2005 16:42 Just popping in Joined 11/02/2003 Comments 93

pretty good job ralf57,

Keep the good vibes! ;)

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Kainaij Published 03/23/2005 17:31 Quite a regular Joined 10/05/2004 Comments 256

Wow!

This is an excellent piece of work. An essential install.

Thanks Ralf.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

m0nty Published 03/23/2005 17:32 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

Ralf, from the looks of this it's not just an update from the previous version, it's a hell of a big improvement and totally different..

excellent work and i must say keep it up as you're doing a damn fine job..

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

smdcom Published 03/23/2005 18:04 Joined 04/27/2004 Comments 901

i must say keep it up ralf... thanks!

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

tl Published 03/23/2005 18:27 Updated 03/23/2005 18:36 Friend of XOOPS Joined 06/23/2002 Comments 999

ralf57:

Thanks for a great hack.

Just one request - is it possible to keep the left-side menu open? Right now, it collapses once you have selected an item. To go back (for example another moudule), you have to go through the same routine again.

tl

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

m0nty Published 03/23/2005 18:50 Updated 03/23/2005 19:05 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

have edited the news plugin and it now displays AMS articles, but where do i send it? can't see your email on the dev site..

also the left hand menu on my site isn't set to the left properly.. there seems to be a margin of about 200px and when viewing modules the menu covers up some of the info on the module..

(using IE6 1024x768 resolution) other than it's excellent.

edited the admin/style.css file and changed adminmenu class (changed text-align: center; to text-align: left;) and it now displays ok :)

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

maumed Published 03/23/2005 19:46 Just popping in Joined 10/18/2004 Comments 50

Thanx for this hack!

mOnty, you need add "text-align: center;" to the class clverytop (file admin/style.css), AND edit it like you said to adjust the left margin and keep the menu labels with align center.

[]s
Mauricio

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

krobi Published 03/23/2005 20:02 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

i have some display problem

with opera 8 beta 3 the menu on the left side has several problems, i cant choose anything because the menu is only a few pixel heigh and the menu is not getting bigger

in internet explorer 6 the menu is not totally left it appears that there is a spacer problem

in firefox it looks as it should and its really nice

hope you can fix this display problems - your admin-menu mod is really great, keep on this great work.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Mithrandir Published 03/23/2005 20:11 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

I like the looks, I like the work. Only one bad thing: I loathe the "plugin" way of thinking.

I have just played around for a couple of hours with LiteStep (an alternate Windows shell) and the modules for that comes with very scarce instructions, but I found out that docs go in one folder, the .dll file in another, images in a third (that may have to be created because it is not by default)

I do NOT want this to be the case with XOOPS. When you download a module and pop it in the modules folder and install it, it should work. Not one plugin goes here and one plugin goes there.

The admin area is a core thing and since we are messing with the core, we might as well do it right from the start. Your work already requires changes in the core, so that is what we will do, but let's take the step forward and make module blocks be available in the admin pages, too.

I have not looked at how you are fetching the adminarea blocks, but isn't it just a matter of adding another possible block page ("admin area") to "all pages", "top page" and individual modules?
If so, then it should be possible to do so, without requiring plugins and splitting modules across the filesystem.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

maumed Published 03/23/2005 20:11 Just popping in Joined 10/18/2004 Comments 50

@krobi:

"edited the admin/style.css file and changed adminmenu class (changed text-align: center; to text-align: left;) and it now displays ok :)"

and

"you need add "text-align: center;" to the class clverytop (file admin/style.css), AND edit it like you said to adjust the left margin and keep the menu labels with align center."

That solves the IE problem (and IE rendering inside Netscape beta). Somebody can look for some workaround for Opera?

This hacks works for me now in IE, Netscape, Netscape beta and Firefox. Didnt test it in any linux browser, can somebody do it and report here?

Mauricio

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

m0nty Published 03/23/2005 20:12 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

@krobi read my previous post abt alignment and mauricios (he used a diff method to me tho, but both achieve the same result)

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

guardian2k1 Published 03/23/2005 20:16 Not too shy to talk Joined 12/23/2004 Comments 114

Definately an improvement over the previous release. However, could you also provide a link back to the home page as well as the preview. Can be a bit of an inconvenience having a new window open up?

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

m0nty Published 03/23/2005 20:36 Updated 03/23/2005 20:37 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

click the xoops2 Administration logo in the top left corner of the screen if u want to get back to the admin home (index page)..

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

krobi Published 03/23/2005 20:38 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

for the plugins thinks we from power-dreams though it would be great when every module have a "plugin" folder

where ALL the plugin for that module are in this folder, for exampler adminmenu, sitemap and so on ...

so users dont need to put this plugin in this folder and so on - and developer dont need to care about modules with plugin and where they need to put there plugins in

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

krobi Published 03/23/2005 20:49 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

thy m0nty and Mauricio

now it works with internet explorer but even not with opera 8 beta 3

maybe its only a conflict with a stylesheet so opera have a problem with this stylesheet at the moment - would be great if someone could find a fix for opera

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

m0nty Published 03/23/2005 20:51 XOOPS is my life! Joined 10/24/2003 Comments 3337

have just noticed images/modadmin.gif is missing ;)

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Herko Published 03/23/2005 20:57 XOOPS is my life! Joined 02/04/2002 Comments 4238

Quote:

krobi wrote:

for the plugins thinks we from power-dreams though it would be great when every module have a "plugin" folder

where ALL the plugin for that module are in this folder, for exampler adminmenu, sitemap and so on ...

so users dont need to put this plugin in this folder and so on - and developer dont need to care about modules with plugin and where they need to put there plugins in

That's exactly what we're trying to avoid. Plugins should be like modules are, available to the whole system. Adding a plugins folder to every module will only create a confusing extra layer of complexity that adds very little.

Herko

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

ralf57 Published 03/23/2005 21:40 Quite a regular Joined 02/03/2003 Comments 231

Thank you all for your reports.

@m0nty & maumed
Thank you for testing the hack so extensively and posting the fix for the menu and other missing things.
I'll try to fix the Opera display problem ASAP

@tl
I know this is a bit annoying.
I hope this could be fixed too

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

ralf57 Published 03/23/2005 21:44 Quite a regular Joined 02/03/2003 Comments 231

Quote:

have edited the news plugin and it now displays AMS articles, but where do i send it? can't see your email on the dev site..

Thank you,
you can send it here

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

gecko Published 03/23/2005 23:45 Not too shy to talk Joined 10/11/2004 Comments 152

really appreciate the detail that you have listed ralf57, alot of mods have very poor to no details so you don't even know what the thing will do or is supposed to do.
kepp up the good work
gecko

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Bassman Published 03/24/2005 1:28 Friend of XOOPS Joined 05/23/2003 Comments 1272

I don't know what i'm doing wrong, but both this and the previous version make the site lose the left/right blocks, and this version gives 404 errors when you click on any of the links in the side menu. All files uploaded correctly, and the XOOPS version is 2.0.9.2.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

krobi Published 03/24/2005 9:43 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

hm i cant reproduce your problem

i have tested it on the same webserver as our site is hosted - and its works greatly only the opera problem (display problems)

and i have tested it on a local-webserver and it also runs smoothly

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

EdStacey Published 03/24/2005 22:08 Updated 03/24/2005 22:10 Just popping in Joined 11/09/2004 Comments 36

Nice Hacks.. Great changes to the Admin screens.
Resized Image
However, this is what the menu looks like to me in IE6. How can I change that to show properly?

Also a button to "exit" instead of "Logoff" or "preview" would be handy...
Thank you for sharing, any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

ralf57 Published 03/24/2005 23:34 Quite a regular Joined 02/03/2003 Comments 231

Quote:

However, this is what the menu looks like to me in IE6. How can I change that to show properly?

This problem has already been fixed,read previous comments to this post.

Quote:

Also a button to "exit" instead of "Logoff" or "preview" would be handy...

The red X does exactly this

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

EdStacey Published 03/25/2005 2:42 Just popping in Joined 11/09/2004 Comments 36

Thanks,
I saw the post where someone else said to edit the CSS, is that the "fix" you are talking about being already done? Should I ask them for a patched file?

As for the X on my screen it LOGS off the admin.. not exactly what I was suggesting. You might like to log-off when you are done editing but I think it would be better to return to the site instead.. no?

Thank you for your friendly help... oh, and a great hack.. beta you say? how soon for alpha?

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Bassman Published 03/25/2005 4:44 Friend of XOOPS Joined 05/23/2003 Comments 1272

Quote:

Poster: krobi Posted: 2005/3/24 19:43:34

hm i cant reproduce your problem

I doubt you would be able to, considering it was just my absolute stupidity that caused it :P

Anyway, just wanted to say I got it working, and it looks sensational!

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

luciano Published 03/25/2005 10:26 Quite a regular Joined 11/03/2003 Comments 261

WOW! Thanks.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

banned Published 03/25/2005 13:04 Not too shy to talk Joined 05/16/2004 Comments 159

To the XOOPS Core Team,
Any possibility to see this as the default admin area?
It looks _very_ professional, more than the actual one.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

ralf57 Published 03/25/2005 14:00 Quite a regular Joined 02/03/2003 Comments 231

Quote:

is that the "fix" you are talking about being already done?

Not at the moment,i'll release a cumulative patch for all the bugs discovered in the last 10-15 days
Actually edit the CSS manually,it's not so hard to do.

Quote:

s for the X on my screen it LOGS off the admin.. not exactly what I was suggesting.

Sorry for misunderstanding

In your case a click on the blue "world" will do this.
If you don't want to open a new page,open
your_site/include/cp_functions.php
and about line 129 find

echo ".XOOPS_URL."/index.php' target='blank'>

and remove

target='blank'

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

krobi Published 03/25/2005 14:28 Quite a regular Joined 12/21/2003 Comments 290

thats great

we have also noticed a problem with pd-downloads when you click on "new download" (for example) the table to enter the informations for this new download are not directly under the normale navigation menu its far away from this

with the original admin menu everything is okay, so i think there is also a css problem/misstake - so to let you know

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Mithrandir Published 03/25/2005 15:30 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

Quote:

To the XOOPS Core Team,
Any possibility to see this as the default admin area?
It looks _very_ professional, more than the actual one.

Yes.

It has never been the intention to let this remain a hack, but to replace the existing administration area with this one.

However, I have a nice-to-have and a need-to-have request before that can happen:
1) Nice: Selection remembering, so the sections don't collapse after selection
2) Need: Better implementation of blocks in admin area (qua my previous post)

I will help Ralf & co. make this a viable solution for XOOPS 2.1/2.2 that will take off for real as soon as we have a 2.0.10 stable out (I'll make the 2.0.10 beta tonight or tomorrow morning)

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

rowdie Published 03/25/2005 15:46 Just can't stay away Joined 07/21/2004 Comments 846

XOOPS 2.1/2.2 is not the same as XooSphere, right?

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

locatorr Published 03/25/2005 16:11 Just popping in Joined 10/15/2004 Comments 10

Very very very Nice.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

Mithrandir Published 03/25/2005 16:19 XOOPS is my life! Joined 06/21/2003 Comments 6320

Quote:

XOOPS 2.1/2.2 is not the same as XooSphere, right?

That is correct. Skalpa is hard at work on the roadmaps that will explain this in more detail.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

banned Published 03/25/2005 17:39 Not too shy to talk Joined 05/16/2004 Comments 159

Quote:

Poster: Mithrandir Posted: 2005/3/25 16:30:41
Quote:
To the XOOPS Core Team,
Any possibility to see this as the default admin area?
It looks _very_ professional, more than the actual one.

Yes.

It has never been the intention to let this remain a hack, but to replace the existing administration area with this one.

However, I have a nice-to-have and a need-to-have request before that can happen:
1) Nice: Selection remembering, so the sections don't collapse after selection
2) Need: Better implementation of blocks in admin area (qua my previous post)

I will help Ralf & co. make this a viable solution for XOOPS 2.1/2.2 that will take off for real as soon as we have a 2.0.10 stable out (I'll make the 2.0.10 beta tonight or tomorrow morning)

An useful option will be, in my opinion, to make themable/skinnable the admin interface.
BTW this is not a secure option (as you know) so a way for an easily return to the 'default' theme/skin is needed.
Right now, there is no need of a cool-theme-selection-block as for the user side (imho, right?), but an admin have to be able to make his/her custom admin backend easily (well, no one - methink - will be angry if this will not be easy as for the userside theming.. but have to tweak with php core files is not for all).
Any program about this?

banned

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

EdStacey Published 03/25/2005 20:12 Just popping in Joined 11/09/2004 Comments 36

Ahhhhh! nice, very nice!
Thank you for the quick pointers and advice.
I really like this hack (soon to be core)...
I'm very sure you have already heard many of these little, very little items.. If so, please bear with me...
I seem to be missing some icons, the "update" icon in the modules section, in the private messages section (three little red-ex boxes).
So far, only one module doesn't wanna expand in the menu (The mypinup module) - My question here would be "what does a module have to have to be expandable?"

Suggestions... "wanna have" - I'd like some way to add menu items to admin menu. I have several external programs I run, I'm sure everyone does.. To be able to manually add items to the menu would be "wunnerful"... Along those lines would be a way to change the four items at the top of the menu. I like the size of them, but would sure like a way to change the icon to something I recognize, and change what the icon does when I press it. (Log-out, is cool, but I seldom use it as I usually visit the site to see what the changes I made look like. I'd like to be able to change that to... "visit disneyland.com" if I wanted to...

A print-page button would be nice...
A means of changing the order of the menu items, let alone the modules (this has been needed for ages)

A final plead for "something" different with the Official News area... My goodness! I fell asleep watching it scroll up (which is cool) but woke up just as the news I wanted to read scrolled off the top.. I have no way to scroll back up to see what I missed. and by golly, how about a "scroll bar" on the side for us old timers? Or at least up-arrow, down-arrow to scroll backwards or forwards faster, and faster each way...

Can all this be done by noon tomorrow?.. great!

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

maumed Published 03/26/2005 0:20 Just popping in Joined 10/18/2004 Comments 50

this hack mess the things up in netscape... wf-links doesnt show anything in some pages, and some other modules admin pages crash the same way. Theres someone looking into css files to solve those problems?

in iexplorer it works like a charm.

Mauricio

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

maumed Published 03/26/2005 19:59 Just popping in Joined 10/18/2004 Comments 50

wf-sections doesnt show some forms in netscape too...

any update about the css problems?

Thats a great hack, but theres many problems with popular modules in popular browsers. Id like to know if theres somebody looking into it, to decide if i keep the hack on my site or roll back to core files.

Thanx in advance,
Mauricio

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

risto Published 03/27/2005 0:21 Not too shy to talk Joined 04/16/2003 Comments 159

nice hack. From the looks of this beta I think the admin area is mooving in the right direction.

It har a more profesional feel to it. I think more work on this will promote xoops. This is definitly the way to move.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

JMorris Published 03/27/2005 1:44 XOOPS is my life! Joined 04/11/2004 Comments 2722

Nice hack! I'm really glad to see that something like this is in the works for core. I've always hated those javascript onhover menus that completely loose alignment with more than 10 or so modules that have menus are installed. This is a definate improvement, if for no other reason than just the admin menu.

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

pcracer Published 08/28/2005 14:57 Just popping in Joined 10/23/2003 Comments 31

just curious as to what the status of this hack is?

i see it's marked as private [no longer available to download?] from the supplied link...

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

davidl2 Published 08/28/2005 15:11 Updated 07/13/2007 8:16 XOOPS is my life! Joined 05/26/2003 Comments 4843

Re: Adminarea Revisited beta2 released

robner Published 10/16/2005 9:44 Just popping in Joined 01/30/2005 Comments 3

Please i installed the adminarea since 3 or 4 month, now i want to uninstall this - thnak to inform me how can i do

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