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Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

philroy Published 12/30/2003 21:31 Friend of XOOPS Joined 08/23/2003 Comments 107

You say it works on IE v5+, but sites like this...
http://www.solmetra.com/en/disp.php/en_products/en_spaw/en_spaw_about
say version 5.5 and say windows.

Considering that saying v 5+ might imply Mac support also....whereas 5.5+ wouldn't (the newest version on a Mac is 5.2) I have to admit that I got my hopes up.

But, from what I can see, this doesn't work on a Mac (correct me if I'm wrong?)...so yet again, it makes it hard to develop things on a Mac for a cross-platform world.

Sorry...yes, I know there's no great alternative, but it does get disappointing.

Phil

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/30/2003 21:35 Joined Comments

I understand what you are saying and yes I do feel for you NON-IE Users out there.

I would like to say that most of the editors I have been testing over the last few months, I did not find one that gave the power you would have been looking for and to be quite honest where dire.

We have found one editor that does look promising and we are working on this at the moment. So hopefully we can have an editor for just about everyone here.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Panos Published 12/31/2003 0:45 Friend of XOOPS Joined 03/20/2003 Comments 87

WOW!! How very thoughtful of you guys to come up with a module that only works with the buggiest and most insecure web browser on the worst Operating system only! I am deeply moved!

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

JackJ Published 12/31/2003 1:05 Community Support Member Joined 08/31/2003 Comments 747

How deeply moved? Deep enough to move to a desert island where nobody has to listen to your shite..

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

ronhab Published 12/31/2003 1:09 Friend of XOOPS Joined 04/27/2003 Comments 160

No, I will tell you what is shit, Jack. Shit is taking an open source CMS, that runs off of an open source scripting language, and then throwing out an official module that only works on Windows.

So feel free to tell me if this is the shit that will continue to come out of the official mod team and I know to begin the process of reevaluating other CMS's so I can take my shit elsewhere.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

supernix Published 12/31/2003 1:25 Not too shy to talk Joined 03/13/2003 Comments 151

First off if you don't like what someone is doing then you are more than welcome to build that better program any time you like. And it is not wise to cast rude remarks at someone that is at least doing something to help improve the CMS. Remember at least they care enough to spend their time working to develop the modules so don't complain unless your doing your fair share of the work to make the CMS the greatest it can be.

The Windows OS makes up the largest segment of the OS field.

It would be nice if there was a module that was cross platform capable that used maybe Javascripting or something of that nature to accomplish the WYSIWYG feature.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Chado Published 12/31/2003 1:36 Updated 12/31/2003 2:04 Not too shy to talk Joined 06/06/2003 Comments 113

While the desire for a cross platform WYSWYG editor is great, these kind of harsh, mean-spirited comments are really out of control!

Catzwolf said that it was only beta, and they are releasing it for testing and:
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We are currently working on an editor that will work with other browsers.
and
We have found one editor that does look promising and we are working on this at the moment. So hopefully we can have an editor for just about everyone here.

So you guys are being way too critical. Would it be better for them to wait 3 months while they tried to get it to work with other browsers, or release what they do have now, so that 90% of the people out there can use it?

Thanks Catzwolf and others!!! Keep up the good work. Don't let all the recent criticism throw you off too much!

Chad

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

philroy Published 12/31/2003 1:39 Friend of XOOPS Joined 08/23/2003 Comments 107

Here here! I was first to post in this thread about non-Mac support...but I do not support the tone or comments that criticise those developing open source software....all I ask is that you don't forget us Mac users, and you've indicated you won't.

Best wishes all for 2004!

Phil

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

JackJ Published 12/31/2003 3:11 Community Support Member Joined 08/31/2003 Comments 747

We want to encourage developers to make modules, not put them off. A lot of work and time obviously went into this module. I first read the word "Wow" expecting something complimentary to follow, only to read complete evil sarcasim, after the developer dedicated the module to his love?

My Scottish temper overtook me, it is fortunate that is all I said.

In most open source Forums, that kind of thing is flamed off. We are all human, and yes we can say things we regret--that one definately caught me off guard, normally I would not rise to that sort of thing.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

dlh Published 12/31/2003 3:23 Updated 12/31/2003 3:24 Joined 02/20/2002 Comments 182

Catz -

Thanks for the hard work! I appreciate it. I am really excited about all the things your team has planned!

Ronhab and Panos, I can tell by your sites that you are passionate about opensource technology. I can also tell that you are big supporters of Xoops.

As such, I am asking you to keep the flames down. Being constructive is one thing, but being mean is counterproductive when folks are donating their time.

If XOOPS isn't meeting your needs you are welcome to go elsewhere.

Thanks.

dlh

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

CBlue Published 12/31/2003 4:09 Joined 06/28/2003 Comments 1244

Thanks for this Catzwolf! I plan on using this module because I do use IE6 and this would be of great benefit to me. I appreciate all the hard work you do for Xoops!

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/31/2003 5:30 Joined Comments

@RonHab:

I am kinda knocked back by your words m8, and you where the last person I would have expected to come out with this.

While I agree with you that this module is not the most perfect solution to WYSIWYG and neither is it cross platform, it is a step in the right direction.

I have stated we are trying to release another editor for non IE browsers and hope to have something very soon.

And yes it would be nice if every browser used the same technology and we did not have to worry about who can and cannot use the modules we release.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

hightyde Published 12/31/2003 5:39 Just popping in Joined 07/11/2003 Comments 86

98% of our members use IE 6.0 so I am very excited about this. Thanks Catzwolf and team.

I believe the negative tone of others in this thread merely reflects their disappointment (due to their browser preference), and is not intended to 'dis the developers.

Again, thanks for the good work, team!

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/31/2003 6:23 Joined Comments

catz -

i've been complaining about non-wysiwyg support for months now. thank you for making it happen.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

mvandam Published 12/31/2003 7:00 Quite a regular Joined 02/07/2003 Comments 253

Nice to see some beginnings of support in the core for WYSIWYG

I noticed the code appears to come from SPAW 1.00b (after only a brief check), but a recent security advisory has recommended NOT using SPAW prior to 1.0.4. I just want to alert the appropriate devs to this issue:

http://www.secunia.com/advisories/10451/

As some of the above posters, I am worried about the choice of a browser-specific editor. While it is fine for now, if a browser-indepdent one isn't provided soon, we may find that mod-devs have to do TWO conversions... one first for SPAW, then one for whatever editor comes next (depending on compatibility).

Anyways, a step in the right direction IMHO, but a few things to watch out for...

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

limecity Published 12/31/2003 8:21 Friend of XOOPS Joined 07/06/2003 Comments 1602

I installed it..
but where is in my XOOPS can i find it?
where in my XOOPS can i find it in action?

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/31/2003 9:17 Joined Comments

Hi mvandam:

Yes this version was built on that version and I do know about this and have been tracking it.

Most of the files have been replaced with the updated security versions. (to lazy to start all over again lol)

I agree with you that we do need just one all browser WYSIWYG editor but as I have already said, trying to find one is not an easy task.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/31/2003 9:19 Joined Comments

You need to read the readme.txt file on how to use this!

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Stewdio Published 12/31/2003 9:25 Community Support Member Joined 05/07/2003 Comments 1560

Not an enviable task, I'm sure. Do you enjoy getting your hands dirty? heh

Great Job Cw, hard at work as always

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Panos Published 12/31/2003 11:29 Friend of XOOPS Joined 03/20/2003 Comments 87

First of all, I did not express my comment neither in a rude nor in a mean sort of way. Yes, sarcasm was meant, isn't it obvious?

Secondly, I was, am and will be the first one (if noone beats me to that of course) to give proper credit to all developers and above all Catzwolf, who IMHO has been the most active of all!

Thirdly, I acknowledge the hard work that has been put into making this module. I never said or written otherwise. Yes, my comment was bitter because it reminded me of poorly implemented, cross-incompatible solutions. Please note that I wrote 'reminded me' and not that this one is one of them. I guess there is a difference.

Fourthly, I will not tolerate any personal insults of any kind. Jack, I have even worse temper than yours, but if I start letting it loose then we will all turn this site into a ****hole. Is this what you want? If it is, I would be more than glad to help, but I would prefer if your response was a bit more *constructive*.

Fifthly, my comments about insecurity are documented and well-established. Also, the fact that IE 5.* for Windows as well as Netscape 4.* are the buggiest browsers around, is well-known. Look at how IE 5.* renders this site for example.

To conclude, my comment was bitter and sarcastic, but in no way vulgar or obscene or even rude! It was meant to be a pun on Catzwolf's comment that he 'feels for' the rest of us non-IE users. So, I paraphrased it a bit and answered back. And believe me, it is not just a statement. It is a fact, and I truly feel that way!

That is about all I had to say. Happy New Year to all, and I am sorry if I offended anyone.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Published 12/31/2003 14:18 Joined Comments

I would just like to state that I did not take these comments personally nor will it make me stop the work that I am doing for the XOOPS Community one little bit.

I was just a little taken back by the strength of RonHabs post and nothing more. I can understand 'his' and other non IE/Windows users with what seems to be a ‘bias’ against other systems out there.

I can assure you, I know exactly what it is like having to change from a computer (Amiga) and OS I loved to use to a crappy windows platform.

We will do our best to bring a cross platform or an alternate WYSIWYG editor you guys out there.

ATB

Catz

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Panos Published 12/31/2003 14:26 Friend of XOOPS Joined 03/20/2003 Comments 87

*Sigh* It certainly is difficult and it will take time to come up with one, as those that already exist, are mainly for IE and mainly for Windows

I'll be waiting though and it is not such a big deal if it isn't cross-platform and browser compatible. Also, there is no need to re-invent the wheel here. What's important are good modules for XOOPS, and I am absolutely positive that you and the whole of the modules development team can deliver them.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

morris Published 12/31/2003 16:09 Just popping in Joined 09/25/2003 Comments 54

OK, I read the readme.txt file but I still don't know which (for example) news file I have to edit.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

morris Published 12/31/2003 16:15 Just popping in Joined 09/25/2003 Comments 54

OK, I read the readme.txt file but I still don't know which (for example) news file I have to edit.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

svaha Published 12/31/2003 18:00 Just can't stay away Joined 08/02/2003 Comments 896

Thank you Catzwolf for this big step, an editor that can be used by all modules that have something to do with text. I'm sure that XOOPS users on the 'content side' will all be happy.
I'm also aware of the fact that IE is not the perfect browser, my favorite is the firebird. But I use IE because most of the users/visitors use IE, and that's what a site is about-->the users/visitors. When you have a technical advanced system for the management of your text, then you are the only one that can manage your text. None of the users can post a news item, because they don't have your browser.
So I downloaded this spaw editor, I want to test it in wf-section, but after reading the readme file a few times, I still don't know where exactly to put these snippets.
So would you please tell us a little more, like what files, what line?
Thank you

Aloha

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

CBlue Published 12/31/2003 18:25 Joined 06/28/2003 Comments 1244

I happen to have alot of users that I allow to have module admin rights and help me with writing articles for my sites. They all use IE 5 or above and having this Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for XOOPS will make it not only easier for me but also for all of my writers. Again I want to thank Catzwolf for this!

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

RicoCali Published 01/04/2004 0:14 Not too shy to talk Joined 07/29/2002 Comments 120

Hi Catz,

I'm a real lazy person when it comes to downloading. Do you have a site I can see this in action?

Rico

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

svaha Published 01/04/2004 11:35 Just can't stay away Joined 08/02/2003 Comments 896

Follow these threads :

Here

and

here

Aloha

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

finalfiler Published 01/05/2004 8:50 Documentation Writer Joined 01/19/2002 Comments 111

Hey Catz,
I didn't bother reading whatever criticism was levelled at your effort, but mate, keep up the good work!

I don't give a s**t what the purists say, because I am convinced users want WYSIWYG editing and if it takes IE to solve that issue, so be it.

I for one have downloaded and will implement!

And thanks for all your help in the past

have a good 2004

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

YourHelp Published 01/05/2004 9:23 Updated 01/05/2004 12:37 Friend of XOOPS Joined 06/09/2003 Comments 479

Quote:

WOW!! How very thoughtful of you guys to come up with a module that only works with the buggiest and most insecure web browser on the worst Operating system only! I am deeply moved!

Quote:

How deeply moved? Deep enough to move to a desert island where nobody has to listen to your shite..

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No, I will tell you what is shit, Jack. Shit is taking an open source CMS, that runs off of an open source scripting language, and then throwing out an official module that only works on Windows.

So feel free to tell me if this is the shit that will continue to come out of the official mod team and I know to begin the process of reevaluating other CMS's so I can take my shit elsewhere.

You people think you got shit problems

Remember it could always be worse...

41 degree heat i went to fridge to get a coldie and there isnt none

i have person that does a morning walk with there dog and they choose my front lawn to do the shit on. My boss smells. and i have 6 kids aged 3 to 11 all boys...... want to make breakfest at my house of a morning i belive i have every type of cerial they make.. the youngest just empty the box's for the toys

so please think before you say the word shit because it could allways be shitter.

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

philroy Published 01/05/2004 9:43 Friend of XOOPS Joined 08/23/2003 Comments 107

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I didn't bother reading whatever criticism was levelled at your effort, but mate, keep up the good work!

I don't give a s**t what the purists say, because I am convinced users want WYSIWYG editing and if it takes IE to solve that issue, so be it.

Actually, my reply (the first to the announcement) was not a criticism.....I totally agree with what you say....users want WYSIWYG and if they have to use IE, then they will. But I'm not going to be able (nor want to) ask them to dump all their Macs (or buy Virtual PC) and get PCs...it was a plea to remember that what works for most doesn't necessarily work for all. If there is ever the possibility of making this feature work on a Mac (which it doesn't) then I would be more than willing to use IE

Cheers,

Phil

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

disky Published 01/29/2004 7:18 Just popping in Joined 10/31/2003 Comments 90

Could you please post the missing graphic files ?

Like:
/modules/spaw/lib/themes/default/img/toolbar_background.gif

Best regards
Disky

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

kennv Published 12/21/2004 21:21 Just popping in Joined 12/28/2003 Comments 11

The download doesn't seem to work. Is there a working download link?

Re: Spaw WYSIWYG Editor for Xoops

Bender Published 12/22/2004 0:49 Home away from home Joined 03/10/2003 Comments 1899

Wow kennv,

where did you dig up this old thread?

Well you can head over to http://www.wf-project.com and check the download section.

ok i am not lazy tonight so here it is:

http://www.wf-projects.com/modules/wfdownloads/viewcat.php?cid=8

However there are other alternatives for editors now especially as this one is still IE only.
So you might wanna look out for koivi editor from samuels which at least does IE and Geck Engine base browser (Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape).
More editors to come in the future.

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