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irmtfan
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/10 11:30

  • irmtfan

  • Module Developer

  • Posts: 3419

  • Since: 2003/12/7


we should follow ways against spammers to dont let them register. once a spammer turns to a registered user everybody can do his own actions against them.
I introduced a "local math captcha" in persian xoops255 release which works perfectly in persian websites.
I didnt have one single spam in more than 1 year in my high traffic website.(about 4 registers a day)
I think this local math captcha is a good way to try even in english websites.
it works like this:
instead of a question like 3 + 4 = ? It will ask Three + Four = ?
or in french it will ask: trois + quatre = ?
I think it worth to try.
even we can turn it to Three plus Four is equal to ?

implementing it is possible in current xoops systems very easy.
in xoops255/class/captcha/text.php
change the function loadText with this:
function loadText()
    {
         
xoops_load('XoopsLocal');
        
$val_a rand(09);
        
$val_b rand(09);
        
$expression "{".XoopsLocal::number_format($val_a)."} + {".XoopsLocal::number_format($val_b)."} = ?";
        
$this->code $val_a $val_b;
        return 
'<span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; font-size: 100%; font-color: #333; border: 1px solid #333; padding: 1px 5px;">'.$expression.'</span>';
    }


as you can see it use XoopsLocal::number_format so you can change the number_format function in your locale.php to change numbers to letters.
the above is the easiest possible way to do with current xoops255 codes.
there are many other ways against register of spams which needs more coding.

EDIT:
IMO now enabling sfs in protector is the most effective way against spammers.

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chefry
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/10 11:35

  • chefry

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  • Since: 2006/10/14


I started this thread to present MY idea for a simple addition to Xoops.

It was not to discuss the various merits and demerits of different methods

If you want to do something else, start another thread

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Mamba
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/10 11:46

  • Mamba

  • Moderator

  • Posts: 11366

  • Since: 2004/4/23


Quote:
I started this thread to present MY idea for a simple addition to Xoops.

It was not to discuss the various merits and demerits of different methods

If you want to do something else, start another thread

Chefry, this is a discussion forum, i.e. we can "discuss" things, and provide other opinions.

If you are not interested in hearing other opinions, the best way is to send an email to yourself

But seriously, what do you expect when you post a message here? We are against "hijacking" somebody's threads, when a discussion is getting to another topic. This was not the case here.

We appreciate your idea, but when you present something here, people might respond with other ideas. If you are not interested in them, just ignore them.

But what you're right now achieving is that people will ignore your messages, once you get the image in the community that you're into interested in listening to others, unless they agree 100% with you.

This is just a comment, and I am not starting a discussion here on this topic, so you don't need to respond...
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chefry
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/10 11:52

  • chefry

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  • Since: 2006/10/14


I have a better suggestion

Delete my profile because SERIOUSLY I'm done here


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Cesagonchu
Re: A suggestion for spamming users

Quote:

chefry wrote:
Access forbidden!


Normally the problem is solved.

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xoobaru
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/10 15:23

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


It is always good to have suggestions. Suggestions can drive innovation when they are appropriately channeled through informed peer review and best practices. To splice in features ad-hoc as they come to mind as though they should be a new standard regardless what others who have to use it think, is shooting from the hip, and too many cowboys adding too many such things would hobble not only XOOPS progress but the ongoing development, support morale and efforts (like a ball ricocheting around a pinball machine depending on which button is pressed by whoever imposes the next idea).

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irmtfan
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/11 2:08

  • irmtfan

  • Module Developer

  • Posts: 3419

  • Since: 2003/12/7


if you want to solve your issue with spams come here and listen to others.
and because i didnt have one single spam in my website for more than a year it seems my suggestions are worthy for you that have many troubles with spams.

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xoobaru
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/11 14:45

  • xoobaru

  • Just can't stay away

  • Posts: 494

  • Since: 2010/12/2


Youve got wisdom oozing out your pores irmtfan. Just don't start believing it because when you do, you then lose it.

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irmtfan
Re: A suggestion for spamming users
  • 2013/4/13 14:51

  • irmtfan

  • Module Developer

  • Posts: 3419

  • Since: 2003/12/7


I always try to find better ways and share with others.
IMO even chefry that originally post this suggestion tried to search better ways because he want to access frxoops.org (So everybody had been off-topic!!!)
I sent a pm in response to chefry pm and i think i can post it here too.

Quote:

what you or me or everybody else think and our ideas are not important at all. what is important is solving the issue.
these forums is not the place for you if you want to just hear what you like.
Actually Core team seriusly want to implement any solution for spams in the upcomming versions so your suggestion include other suggestions are very important to follow IF THEY SOLVE ANY ISSUE.
So your suggestion will not be ignored but it will be criticized by me and others.
At the end i should tell you to dont worry about your solution
AFAIK with the new profile system in the new xoops release maybe in 2.6 or 2.7 you can implement your solution (add bad emails to black list automatically)

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Cesagonchu
Re: A suggestion for spamming users

Chefry wanted to reach frxoops to read about dealing with the spam there, so we were not really off topic.

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