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Well that was interesting style.css doesn't update either, So I thought maybe it was still trying to get stuff from my local machine, where I had it running originaly (as some images where still being pulled from there (which I had to update). So I changed the theme on the web to phpkaox, and deleted the defult theme from the web. thinking if the theme is still in the list, it must be getting it from my local comp, but it had gone, so deleteing the theme off the we made a difference, so I'm stumped again. I re-uploaded the default theme from a backup and I'm back where I was with the default theme, but unable to update it.