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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/3/2 21:28

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Mithrandir wrote:
Looking better

What will be next step, once this specification is finished? Will you (with the Docs team, perhaps?) make a "Guide to Approval", explaining how to accomplish each task? I think that would be a tremendous guide.

I think we should improve this doc to make it more understandable...giving some examples
perhaps for coding aspects, we should list all criteria.
our goal is to make this test usable for newbies...

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You say yourselves in "S4 - Textsanitizer usage" that instructions on correct usage should be available and I think other tests could use the same (e.g. what constitues "Smarty compliant"?), so might as well make a section for each test, explaining
a) its purpose
b) how to make a module pass this test and
c) how the test is performed

you're right.
but perhaps should we not going too far, because of XOOPS V3. I'm waiting for v3 roadmap !!!!!

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I could also suggest a new category - C (for Code Standards) - where you take the P2 test about object orientation as well as general coding standards and core usage. I suggest that this new category has the following tests:
P2, A5 (Note that there are TWO A5's, I mean the one about permissions), A6, A7 and A11. An added use of core Notification (where applicable) could perhaps also be a new test?

I will have a look into. Good idea.

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Only one piece of feedback left now: B1 - it doesn't really matter to me, when I install a module, whether it has been in Beta and/or RC before being released. It is a nice reassurance for me to know that it will probably have fewer bugs than a module that was released without it, but since you ARE testing the module for bugs etc. I think it will not be fair for a module that passes ALL tests apart from this one to be noted "Did not pass this test"... when everything is working, the need for a Beta/RC is limited, I think.

I think we should not test RC or beta, but it's important to make people think publishing an RC has a quality value.

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It may serve to be an explanation for why the module fails other tests, and you should be able to conclude after performing the tests that it should have been released in beta/RC versions prior to final launch, but it should not be a test in itself.

should I add an test's comment part ?

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Use what you can of this and I am of course available for working with you on the coding standard and core usage tests.

sure I need some help from others, especially on this part.
But take care about V3 impact !!!!



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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/3/2 21:21

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jensclas wrote:
Under module design you have - install process - described in the read me file - I think you need to also have read me file - is included and covers 'required' details. eg title, version, author, license statement, install instructions, and credits. They also need to be 'readable' and reasonably correct in their use of language.

There are many modules that do not have a read me file at all - and there are tons of veriations in the content of a read me file. There is a need to set up some basic expectations of what would be in a read me file. Look at my article on read me files here - it is still in draft form but you will get the picture.

Other than that I think it looks good - but then I am not up to the rest of it - just looking out for newbies and readability.

off my soap box now!


hum, I've just opened this nice document.15pages !!!!!
ok, will have a look into.
We should create a rule for docs, as you're proposing.
give me some days to read this !
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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/3/1 23:15

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thanks to Myth and JasonMR for your comments
here is a new version

Please help us to improve this 2nd draft !

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Re: Catzwolf Is Now A Mambo Developer
  • 2005/3/1 21:30

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Are you sure this information is reliable ?
If yes, could be great if we analyse a little bit why great devs are leaving...
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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/2/28 23:28

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Hy,

here is the last version,
it has to be improved in many parts. I have still to work on :
- giving more details on what a dev or QA tester should do exactly
- on security aspects more in details
- giving more details for install /readme /upgrade &co file's content.

What do you think about this ?
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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/2/16 20:11

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thanks for you comment
i need to improve this first attempt :
- give more details on what a dev or QA tester should do exactly
- work on security aspects more in details

Do you see any item that I missed ?



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Re: Action Item #1 : let's start !
  • 2005/2/15 22:16

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hy everyone

Sorry to be late,
jorgebarrero, I apologize not to have answered to you quickly.
But this last month was a great busy XOOPS month, with News 1.3 Debug party and improvments, and with other translation/debug works.

Here is a draft version of our smoketests works.

Please give any comments, add on, feeedback about this one.

It's a first draft and should be considered as this.
hope to hear some echos from you (!)
marco



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Re: Double Standards
  • 2005/2/13 19:29

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we can discuss hours without any conclusion, if we analyse this very interesting thread under legal aspects.
The question is :
- How do you want XOOPS projets to be ?
- What is XOOPS spirit ?

I personaly think that we should not make money considerations enter XOOPS community.
Should I ask for fees for time I spend debugging, testing, helping programmers in improving their modules, translating modules ?
Should I charge for my ideas, or posts in forums ?

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If a business were to hijack the project and make its focus more narrow and related only to whatever uses of XOOPS that business were interested in, that would make the project far less useful and interesting for everyone else, so a lot of contributors would leave the project, and all of a sudden, the whole point the business is involved in the project -- the fact that other people are contributing -- disappears.


If only all developpers could respect devs credits...

I know your're using XOOPS for your personal projets.
But should personal considerations enter XOOPS or be public ?

I hope that this will occur less in the future. Let's speak less about money.Money (donation, fee or whatever you want) should be used only for community efforts, like communication, organizing events like fosdem, encouraging people to help and participating, not helping personal projets.

I hope some coders will join their efforts on module developpements. We can notice several projets being developped with same functionalities or on same subjects, that's bad.
If we were mature, working more together would be an evidence...

I think we have to write our internal rules, despite or with GPL or WhatyourwantL.
What do we want XOOPS to be ? A community or not ?

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Re: XOOPS 2.0.10
  • 2005/2/9 19:58

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PHP Security Consortium is born
----> you will find their first publication The PHP Security Guide (free download)
perhaps a way to increase our security knowledge ?
http://phpsec.org/
just my 2cnt...
bye
marco



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Re: Feature for a great calendar module ?
  • 2005/2/7 19:06

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zoullou wrote:
I must rewrite this module because it's hard to had last features.
If you want i can relaese BETA 2 with the last develop version without support


yes, I would greatly appreciate
marco




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