Hi phppp,

Your points are well taken.

I need quite a bit more than just a forum, but the forum is a critical part the community interaction.

That's exactly why, before I choose my successor CMS/Portal package, I'm looking to see how much interoperability each one has, and what 'additional lenses' are available ;)

Thanks for your time.

I wish you well.

Always,
-Lion

Hi Mithrandir,

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I'm sorry for leading you to waste your time, but I do appreciate that you took a look at the issue at all. That's the most I've seen done anywhere, in any thread on the issue, over the past 2 years.

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I don't think it's possible. If it were, as you say, someone would have done this easier thing long ago.

Thanks anyway, Mithrandir.

I wish you well.

Always,
-Lion

Hi Mithrandir,

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I am not a programmer, but I do understand your point. I did not post blindly either, I researched the issue of a bridge between SMF and.. well, anything, quite thoroughly, first. I saw that interest in this has been on-going for the past couple of years, but the only CMS that's actually successfully done it is the MAMBO group. The matter is, frankly, very puzzling to me, because obviously the interest is there, outside of the developer communities. The response by the SMF people is even more puzzling to me because I would think they would have more interest being compatible with at least one significant CMS/Portal standard. The typical attitude seems to be "We are the best, let everyone else come to our door if they wish to connect". When everyone takes that approach, no one goes to anyone else at all, and there is no interoperability.

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As I say, I am not a programmer, I have not looked at the code of any forum package, and could not tell the quality of one set of code from the quality of the other. Feature lists are nice, but after a certain minimum level, the rest is just 'nice-to-have' rather than truly important to the functioning and usability of the package. If features were the issue, then most of the packages would be on a par.

What it comes down to, for me, is the look and feel of the forum, and how that translates into actual usability.

It's like the difference between a Mercedes and a BMW. Both are great cars, but you have some people who love each one for their own reasons. To me, forums like NewBB have a 'look and feel' that's more user-friendly to techies, it makes better sense to their eye, and the functions seem approximately the same. On the other hand, forums like SMF have a 'look and feel' that seems more user-friendly to non-techies, to the people who have no clue what FTP means and they don't want to know.

I don't know if I'm explaining that well, or even if others see it the way I do. As I said, it's a preference issue, but it's an important preference. I'm switching from my current CMS/Portal package (which shall remain nameless) and looking for something better. I really like what I see in XOOPs so far, and for the communities I'm supporting, SMF makes sense, so it's the solution I would like to implement.

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I apologize, I was not very clear about my request. I was asking about having XOOPs and SMF talk together, enough so that a user can login to XOOPs and be logged into SMF at the same time.

Ideally, also, the permissions should be translated between the two, also, so that 1 set of permissions can be set at the XOOPs group level and that be translated over to the SMF group as well.

But that's all. Nothing more. Just a bridge between the two packages, not the incorporation of SMF into XOOPs. I mean, that would be a fine thing, I'm sure, but it would take months if not years to complete. I simply hope for interoperability between XOOPs and SMF, so that I can use the SMF forum as part of a XOOPs portal.

Hopefully,
-Lion

Hi!

I'm new to XOOPs, evaluating it really, to see if it will suit my needs and tastes. So far I really like what I see, but there is one major question I have remaining;

Is there somewhere a bridge module so that one can seamlessly integrate XOOPs with SMF (Simple Machines Forum)?

I did a search on the forum to look for the answer, and while there's a few mentions for this, there's no actual word of one being made.

Please do not take this is a dis on NewBB or any other forum package, it's a matter of preference.

If there is not such a bridge, how much would it cost to commission it to be made?

Yes, I've asked about SMF and XOOPs on the SMF forum already, without success. They did say, however, that if the CMS developers are interested, they are glad to offer information and assistance.

-Lion